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I would like to apologize for my last pick - kind of boring and almost in line with ADP. I am working diligently on my next selection.
10/14/2018 1:54 PM
I really was hoping either Barry or Korver would fall to my spot in the fourth. It didn't even get close to happening.
10/14/2018 4:20 PM (edited)
As was I...
10/14/2018 4:32 PM
I was actually thinking about locking down Arvydas early just because he's singular and what I would look for in front of him was less rare but I thought I had a shot at him in the late 5th
10/14/2018 7:16 PM
Posted by copernicus on 10/14/2018 7:16:00 PM (view original):
I was actually thinking about locking down Arvydas early just because he's singular and what I would look for in front of him was less rare but I thought I had a shot at him in the late 5th
Yeah I’m sure I took him earlier than he normally goes but I figured he wouldn’t make it to my 5th Rd pick
10/15/2018 7:05 AM
Round 3

Biggest Steals:
1) Anthony Davis
2) Elton Brand
3) Derek Harper

By ADP, Bill Russell was a bigger steal but I just don't think you can use him. I took Anthony Davis in the second round last year and had the best record in the league, so getting him in the third is pretty sweet. Ben will have to use the 99 SF season of his but that is a good one to use anyway. He has a beastly frontline. Derek Harper is a good ODL player. He is cheap, shoots threes, plays defense, doesn't turn it over and gets you an okay number of assists. He can basically fill the PG spot adequately without breaking the bank which isn't sexy but it is needed.

Biggest Reaches:
1) Nikola Jokic
2) Rajon Rondo
3) Jose Calderon

I like Jokic's season in a lot of formats. I am unsure about it in the ODL and extremely unsure about it at the top of the third round. Calderon is awesome, I often try and get him on my teams. But I think you are hoping he is there in the 5th or 6th, not in the 3rd. Rondo does a lot of things well, but having a PG who can't shoot threes when your other two picks are big men is a head scratcher. While we are talking about cjok's team, I just don't understand how you can pick KAT in the 2nd when your first pick is a center who can't defend PFs. KAT can't play the 3, so you are essentially punting on PF defense in every game.
10/15/2018 12:16 PM

By ADP, Bill Russell was a bigger steal but I just don't think you can use him.


how's his 68-69 90 D season so different from like Marcus Camby (but with more minutes)?
10/15/2018 12:52 PM (edited)
Posted by copernicus on 10/15/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

By ADP, Bill Russell was a bigger steal but I just don't think you can use him.


how's his 68-69 90 D season so different from like Marcus Camby (but with more minutes)?
Well, he rebounds four points worse, shoots four points worse and turns it over six points more. But you are right, that season isn't that bad and it would be unfair to call it unusable in this format. It's fine, although I wouldn't want to spend that high of a pick on it. Definitely not bad though.
10/15/2018 12:51 PM
if some of his earlier seasons were 100 D (which by all rights...) they would be even more usable
10/15/2018 12:58 PM
Darn, is the difference between 74 and 90 D really that much in the sim to tip the scales?

I was going to take one of Russell's earlier seasons, which admittedly, put me in a bit of a salary crunch, but I thought the large amount of minutes with low usage, good defense, great rebounding and decent passing for a big man would make it worth it in the end.

Oh well, all worth the learning experience, I knew I would have trouble budgeting and who knows, maybe it will work out anyway.
10/15/2018 2:06 PM
Posted by mptrey on 10/15/2018 2:06:00 PM (view original):
Darn, is the difference between 74 and 90 D really that much in the sim to tip the scales?

I was going to take one of Russell's earlier seasons, which admittedly, put me in a bit of a salary crunch, but I thought the large amount of minutes with low usage, good defense, great rebounding and decent passing for a big man would make it worth it in the end.

Oh well, all worth the learning experience, I knew I would have trouble budgeting and who knows, maybe it will work out anyway.
Well, the $/Min/82 on that season is Russell's second cheapest and it is also his best season, so I would probably use that one. It is also his lowest usage season so his shooting will hurt you the least.
10/15/2018 2:14 PM
minutes and usage seem to be the two biggest cost valuators (and yet dont represent real value per se) that's why you have some of those old timey guys that no one ever drafts with 3300+ minutes and 30+ usage (but crap efg) costing north of 10m
10/15/2018 3:27 PM
I still think 63-64 Russell is the best version for my team, at least at this point. 44 minutes per game of his 12.2/32.4 Rebounding %'s are something I feel like I really need next to D-Rob, at the expense of a little more usage, less defense and losing some later round value.

You guys have done well in convincing me that I made a mistake in drafting him though.
10/15/2018 3:39 PM
I didn't mean to - he's solid and would be even better than that if this site were worth a damn
10/15/2018 3:53 PM
Selection Pick Owner Pick v. ADP % of Time Drafted
James, LeBron 1 ysw128 -0.89 100% Round 1
Curry, Stephen 2 Midge -0.56 100%
Chamberlain, Wilt 3 rubnsly 1.44 100%
O'Neal, Shaquille 4 gerryred -2.56 100%
Jordan, Michael 5 24kpyrite 0.33 100%
Abdul-Jabbar, Kareem 6 cjok1051 -0.89 100%
Howard, Dwight 7 benhoidal -1.11 100%
Rodman, Dennis 8 jhsukow -2.11 100%
Durant, Kevin 9 bds9992 -4.44 100%
Malone, Moses 10 ncmusician_7 0.89 100%
Paul, Chris 11 tau1624 0.78 100%
Barkley, Charles 12 mikee1 -1.67 100%
Gilmore, Artis 13 tcdahn7 -15.44 100%
Bird, Larry 14 dBKC -0.56 100%
Robinson, David 15 mptrey 2.44 100%
McHale, Kevin 16 midzim -21.78 100%
Malone, Karl 17 robusk 8.78 100%
Kidd, Jason 18 jkaye24 -7.89 100%
Stockton, John 19 pharrop 2.00 100%
Jordan, DeAndre 20 sappy -2.22 100%
Duncan, Tim 21 copernicus -1.00 100%
Johnson, Magic 22 jcred5 4.78 100%
Whiteside, Hassan 23 dh555 -16.33 100%
Wade, Dwyane 24 uptowngbv 1.89 100%
Wallace, Ben 25 uptowngbv -2.33 100% Round 2
Gobert, Rudy 26 dh555 -16.89 100%
Green, Draymond 27 jcred5 -7.00 100%
Pippen, Scottie 28 copernicus 0.00 100%
Leonard, Kawhi 29 sappy -3.11 100%
Antetokounmpo, Giannis 30 pharrop 10.00 44%
Hardaway, Anfernee 31 robusk 3.00 100%
Olajuwon, Hakeem 32 jhsukow -3.22 100%
Johnson, Marques 33 midzim -34.75 89%
Nash, Steve 34 mptrey 1.11 100%
Marion, Shawn 35 dBKC -11.00 100%
Thompson, Klay 36 tcdahn7 -10.00 100%
Garnett, Kevin 37 bds9992 15.89 100%
Camby, Marcus 38 tau1624 -6.33 100%
Williams, Deron 39 ncmusician_7 -0.78 100%
Billups, Chauncey 40 mikee1 7.56 100%
Ginobili, Manu 41 jkaye24 -5.67 100%
Walton, Bill 42 benhoidal 2.22 100%
Towns, Karl-Anthony 43 cjok1051 -6.25 44%
Marshall, Donyell 44 24kpyrite -5.11 100%
Drummond, Andre 45 gerryred -5.33 100%
Price, Mark 46 rubnsly -33.67 100%
Erving, Julius 47 Midge 8.22 100%
McAdoo, Bob 48 ysw128 4.44 100%
Blaylock, Mookie 49 ysw128 5.89 100% Round 3
Mutombo, Dikembe 50 Midge 2.22 100%
Jokic, Nikola 51 rubnsly -33.80 56%
Porter, Terry 52 gerryred 5.67 100%
Conley, Mike 53 24kpyrite -10.50 44%
Rondo, Rajon 54 cjok1051 -26.88 100%
Davis, Anthony 55 benhoidal 17.78 100%
Chandler, Tyson 56 robusk 1.78 100%
Lowry, Kyle 57 mikee1 -19.88 89%
Grant, Horace 58 ncmusician_7 -13.33 100%
Nance, Larry 59 tau1624 -13.56 100%
Payton, Gary 60 bds9992 1.33 100%
Kemp, Shawn 61 tcdahn7 7.78 100%
Barry, Brent 62 dBKC -21.44 100%
Russell, Bill 63 mptrey 24.78 100%
Calderon, Jose 64 midzim -25.22 100%
Mourning, Alonzo 65 mikee1 12.16 100%
Stoudemire, Amare 66 jkaye24 10.56 100%
Boerwinkle, Tom 67 pharrop -2.00 100%
Brand, Elton 68 sappy 18.44 100%
Jones, Bobby 69 copernicus -4.11 100%
Noah, Joakim 70 jcred5 11.11 100%
Harper, Derek 71 dh555 12.22 100%
Ward, Charlie 72 uptowngbv -0.33 100%
Ewing, Patrick 73 uptowngbv -7.44 100% Round 4
Harden, James 74 dh555 22.33 100%
Boozer, Carlos 75 jcred5 -22.25 89%
Williams, Buck 76 copernicus -8.78 100%
Korver, Kyle 77 sappy -11.00 33%
Ray, Clifford 78 pharrop 2.89 100%
Drexler, Clyde 79 jkaye24 6.44 100%
Parish, Robert 80 jkaye24 -4.51 100%
Bogut, Andrew 81 midzim -9.22 100%
Wallace, Gerald 82 mptrey -9.67 100%
Webber, Chris 83 dBKC 2.11 100%
Jackson, Mark 84 tcdahn7 -13.67 33%
Rollins, Tree 85 jhsukow -1.17 67%
Sabonis, Arvydas 86 tau1624 -23.89 100%
Allen, Ray 87 ncmusician_7 16.22 100%
George, Paul 88 jhsukow -13.00 22%
Green, Danny 89 robusk -10.80 56%
Ibaka, Serge 90 gerryred 7.56 100%
Williams, Marvin 91 cjok1051 -21.67 67%
Gasol, Pau 92 24kpyrite -10.24 100%
McMillan, Nate 93 benhoidal -16.40 100%
Edge, Charlie 94 rubnsly -7.67 67%
Murphy, Troy 95 Midge -20.75 44%
Faried, Kenneth 96 ysw128 -21.98 56%
10/15/2018 4:20 PM
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