Andrew Hawkins Topic

Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2014 9:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 8:30:00 AM (view original):
police should probably take it easier on those they are arresting.... right BL? A simple noise complaint call. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/21/police-shooting-florida/20723027/
You didn't answer the question. Why would there be protests in the case of the dead cops?
the point is there SHOULDN'T be... just like there should have NEVER been any looting and violence (which is actually what I had originally suggested I'd wait for) in the legal killings of Garner and Brown. The racism card is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overplayed and prompts all of this violence; the ferguson riots, the berkeley campus riots, and now these 2 cops being shot. The fact is there are ~450 people killed per year by cops. Of that ONLY ~96 or 21% are white cops shooting black men. There are over 12 million arrests per year so cops killing 450 people = cops being out of control is a poorly drawn conclusion. This is a simple case of cops doing their jobs in Ferguson and NYC, the media (compiled with Obama, Sharpton, De Blasio, etc) race baiting to rile people up for their own agendas, and now the consequences are cops are getting assassinated while sitting in their cars.
12/22/2014 9:52 AM
So, there aren't protests and there shouldn't be. So why ask?

(No one condones looting. Peaceful, yet disruptive, protests are perfectly ok)
12/22/2014 9:57 AM
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 9:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2014 9:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 8:30:00 AM (view original):
police should probably take it easier on those they are arresting.... right BL? A simple noise complaint call. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/21/police-shooting-florida/20723027/
You didn't answer the question. Why would there be protests in the case of the dead cops?
the point is there SHOULDN'T be... just like there should have NEVER been any looting and violence (which is actually what I had originally suggested I'd wait for) in the legal killings of Garner and Brown. The racism card is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overplayed and prompts all of this violence; the ferguson riots, the berkeley campus riots, and now these 2 cops being shot. The fact is there are ~450 people killed per year by cops. Of that ONLY ~96 or 21% are white cops shooting black men. There are over 12 million arrests per year so cops killing 450 people = cops being out of control is a poorly drawn conclusion. This is a simple case of cops doing their jobs in Ferguson and NYC, the media (compiled with Obama, Sharpton, De Blasio, etc) race baiting to rile people up for their own agendas, and now the consequences are cops are getting assassinated while sitting in their cars.
You realize protests and looting are 2 very different things, right?
12/22/2014 9:59 AM
Its interesting that the Brown and Garner killings can not be proven to be even remotely driven by racism, but were and still are framed as 'White cop shoots Black gentile giant', yet when a clearly racist black man slays 2 innocent cops the headlines aren't 'Racist Black Man Shoots 2 Minority Cops'. just shows how ****** up the media is nowadays.
12/22/2014 9:59 AM
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 9:59:00 AM (view original):
Its interesting that the Brown and Garner killings can not be proven to be even remotely driven by racism, but were and still are framed as 'White cop shoots Black gentile giant', yet when a clearly racist black man slays 2 innocent cops the headlines aren't 'Racist Black Man Shoots 2 Minority Cops'. just shows how ****** up the media is nowadays.
You're arguing that this man was racist against Asians and Hispanics? That THAT'S clear, but there's NO evidence of any racism in what drove the Brown and Garner deaths.
12/22/2014 10:05 AM
I don't disagree with the media driving home certain messages for their own sake. I disagree with the certainty in your thoughts, though.
12/22/2014 10:07 AM
Posted by moy23 on 12/21/2014 11:06:00 AM (view original):
two nyc police officers killed by a black man in retribution attacks. i'll stand by and wait for the media to cry 'racism' and for the looting to begin in nyc. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/21/us-usa-newyork-police-idUSKBN0JY0N820141221
for burnsy's reference. I do know the difference between protests and rioting so I will ask you when did I say anything about protesting? I'm perfectly fine with protesting, boycotting, etc. I'm not fine with people like Sharpton, Obama, the Media, etc race baiting to stir up trouble in order to further their own agendas.
12/22/2014 10:07 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 12/21/2014 7:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 12/21/2014 7:26:00 PM (view original):
Did he kill the two officers because of their skin color?
"I'm Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours, Let's Take 2 of Theirs," an Instagram post read, authorities said.
burnsy - who do you think he was referring to when he says 'Ours'? please enlighten us.
12/22/2014 10:10 AM
You didn't answer the question. Why would there be protests in the case of the dead cops?
the point is there SHOULDN'T be... just like there should have NEVER been any looting and violence...


You're comparing two very different things.
12/22/2014 10:11 AM
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 10:10:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 12/21/2014 7:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 12/21/2014 7:26:00 PM (view original):
Did he kill the two officers because of their skin color?
"I'm Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours, Let's Take 2 of Theirs," an Instagram post read, authorities said.
burnsy - who do you think he was referring to when he says 'Ours'? please enlighten us.
he means African-Americans.

Who do you think he was referring to when he says "Theirs?" please enlighten us.
12/22/2014 10:12 AM
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/22/2014 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 9:59:00 AM (view original):
Its interesting that the Brown and Garner killings can not be proven to be even remotely driven by racism, but were and still are framed as 'White cop shoots Black gentile giant', yet when a clearly racist black man slays 2 innocent cops the headlines aren't 'Racist Black Man Shoots 2 Minority Cops'. just shows how ****** up the media is nowadays.
You're arguing that this man was racist against Asians and Hispanics? That THAT'S clear, but there's NO evidence of any racism in what drove the Brown and Garner deaths.
If there was evidence of racism in the garner and brown cases these cops would be in jail for hate crimes. the fact is there was NO evidence other than what you have in your own imagination.
12/22/2014 10:12 AM
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 10:12:00 AM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/22/2014 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 9:59:00 AM (view original):
Its interesting that the Brown and Garner killings can not be proven to be even remotely driven by racism, but were and still are framed as 'White cop shoots Black gentile giant', yet when a clearly racist black man slays 2 innocent cops the headlines aren't 'Racist Black Man Shoots 2 Minority Cops'. just shows how ****** up the media is nowadays.
You're arguing that this man was racist against Asians and Hispanics? That THAT'S clear, but there's NO evidence of any racism in what drove the Brown and Garner deaths.
If there was evidence of racism in the garner and brown cases these cops would be in jail for hate crimes. the fact is there was NO evidence other than what you have in your own imagination.
So if there's any evidence of that, they're in jail? You don't know the legal system very well.
12/22/2014 10:14 AM
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/22/2014 10:12:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 10:10:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 12/21/2014 7:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 12/21/2014 7:26:00 PM (view original):
Did he kill the two officers because of their skin color?
"I'm Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours, Let's Take 2 of Theirs," an Instagram post read, authorities said.
burnsy - who do you think he was referring to when he says 'Ours'? please enlighten us.
he means African-Americans.

Who do you think he was referring to when he says "Theirs?" please enlighten us.
theirs=cops, maybe even non-black cops. so a black man says 'They take one of 'our african americans', lets take 2 of theirs (meaning cops)' then shoots 2 non-black cops sitting in a car. hmm. i'm not a rocket scientist but the simple fact alone that you and I think he meant 'african american' by 'ours' demonstrates that this was a RACIALLY driven crime. its still racism if a person gets killed for being a cop AND for their skin color.
12/22/2014 10:19 AM
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/22/2014 10:14:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 10:12:00 AM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/22/2014 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 12/22/2014 9:59:00 AM (view original):
Its interesting that the Brown and Garner killings can not be proven to be even remotely driven by racism, but were and still are framed as 'White cop shoots Black gentile giant', yet when a clearly racist black man slays 2 innocent cops the headlines aren't 'Racist Black Man Shoots 2 Minority Cops'. just shows how ****** up the media is nowadays.
You're arguing that this man was racist against Asians and Hispanics? That THAT'S clear, but there's NO evidence of any racism in what drove the Brown and Garner deaths.
If there was evidence of racism in the garner and brown cases these cops would be in jail for hate crimes. the fact is there was NO evidence other than what you have in your own imagination.
So if there's any evidence of that, they're in jail? You don't know the legal system very well.
good one. got me there matlock.
12/22/2014 10:20 AM
So it's "cops." So that's clearly racist? He's racist against...cops?

If he shoots a black cop, is it still racist, in the same sense?
12/22/2014 10:23 AM
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