What is the lowes per ratings you let take 3's? Topic

I generally have everyone at -2 until they hit 80+ per and decent speed, but not sure if that is too high?

For example what about someone with 88 speed and 79 perimeter, I was thinking of trying -1 and hope for around 35%?

Anyone care to share how they work 3 point distro?

10/24/2014 9:01 PM
what division? what position?
10/24/2014 9:09 PM
I go -1 if they are over 40, 0 if they are around 50-60, +1 if they are like 60-80 and +2 if they are above that, but if they are also good at LP, I will make it lower. I'll be interested in what others say.

10/24/2014 10:36 PM
Unless you're playing D1 that is way to high........There are lots of good threads on this......Listen to emy's advice,in it;  it is the best
10/24/2014 11:34 PM
This is for D3 and mainly PG/SG/SF, and does potential have any effect for example would a 65 perimeter blue shoot better than 65 perimeter black if they have similar spd/bh?  

Chapel at over 40-60 are they able to shoot at a respectable percentage?  I've never tried more than one game generally on accident with anyone below 75 shooting -2 and when I did have them anything higher most never even made 1 shot.
10/25/2014 1:02 AM
any thank you trenton for showing those threads!
10/25/2014 1:02 AM
I don't necessarily look @ the per attribute specifically but more as part of the equation for a per shooter.
i think the per rating is probably close to half of the equation but also ath, speed, bh and IQ is factored into it as well imo.
I had a guy once that had 85 per but his ath was bad (around 47 i think), speed was in the mid 60s, bh was like 48 and he was worse than a guy with 65 per but better ath/spd/bh ratings (all were in the 80s except ath and it was low 70s).  Granted I didnt have either setup for +1 but just wanted to make a point..  Usually if a guy is 75+ in my "formula" i will make them a +1 and in extremely rare cases a +2 depending on how high they rank.  My brother and I share info (formulas) and he has a guy right now that is 76ath/82spd/99per/95bh and he has him at a +1 as he ranked 89 with our little formula and he shot 38% (56 of 148) last season from 3.  He has debated on making him a +2 just to see how he performs but hasn't pulled the trigger yet to my knowledge. 







10/25/2014 1:12 AM
Posted by the0nlyis on 10/24/2014 9:01:00 PM (view original):
I generally have everyone at -2 until they hit 80+ per and decent speed, but not sure if that is too high?

For example what about someone with 88 speed and 79 perimeter, I was thinking of trying -1 and hope for around 35%?

Anyone care to share how they work 3 point distro?

88 speed and 79 PER, assuming decent BH, can easily be an 16+ PPG scorer on good %s primarily from 3 in any offensive system.  I wouldn't put that guy at any less than 0 under any circumstances.

I'm sure there's actually an exception, maybe if I have an absurdly good 3-point shooting team.  But it's a stretch.

10/25/2014 1:50 AM
Posted by dahsdebater on 10/25/2014 1:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by the0nlyis on 10/24/2014 9:01:00 PM (view original):
I generally have everyone at -2 until they hit 80+ per and decent speed, but not sure if that is too high?

For example what about someone with 88 speed and 79 perimeter, I was thinking of trying -1 and hope for around 35%?

Anyone care to share how they work 3 point distro?

88 speed and 79 PER, assuming decent BH, can easily be an 16+ PPG scorer on good %s primarily from 3 in any offensive system.  I wouldn't put that guy at any less than 0 under any circumstances.

I'm sure there's actually an exception, maybe if I have an absurdly good 3-point shooting team.  But it's a stretch.

55 bh so I had him at -2 for most of the season as spd/per were still increasing and not where they are now and -1 towards the end of the season so a 7/20 from deep is limited sample size, so I'm thinking the bh is going to negate the spd/per, but I am going to try him out at 0 to start the season and keep here there unless he drops under 35% from deep then I'll rethink it.
10/25/2014 3:09 AM
Posted by the0nlyis on 10/25/2014 3:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dahsdebater on 10/25/2014 1:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by the0nlyis on 10/24/2014 9:01:00 PM (view original):
I generally have everyone at -2 until they hit 80+ per and decent speed, but not sure if that is too high?

For example what about someone with 88 speed and 79 perimeter, I was thinking of trying -1 and hope for around 35%?

Anyone care to share how they work 3 point distro?

88 speed and 79 PER, assuming decent BH, can easily be an 16+ PPG scorer on good %s primarily from 3 in any offensive system.  I wouldn't put that guy at any less than 0 under any circumstances.

I'm sure there's actually an exception, maybe if I have an absurdly good 3-point shooting team.  But it's a stretch.

55 bh so I had him at -2 for most of the season as spd/per were still increasing and not where they are now and -1 towards the end of the season so a 7/20 from deep is limited sample size, so I'm thinking the bh is going to negate the spd/per, but I am going to try him out at 0 to start the season and keep here there unless he drops under 35% from deep then I'll rethink it.
I would set him at 0 and give him more distro than Hause. Better speed/ath and good LP for a guards means he could be a very efficient scorer.
10/25/2014 10:17 AM
Not to go too far off topic but what is the guys free throw shooting like. If he is a bad free throw shooter I would definitely increase his threes, but if he is a very good free throw shooter I would tend to let him make up that point from the charity stripe. Okay that's not true, I've never had a very good free throw shooter
10/25/2014 10:24 AM
House is a C ft shooter while Jones is a C+

I actually had Hause have a super high distro setting I think 28 last season and he shot pretty well considering how much of the offense he was, but I do plan on having Jones have a much higher distro setting, but I'm not sure if I will have him higher than Hause, especially since Jones doesn't have "great" bh skills for a PG and can sometimes turn the ball over a lot.
10/25/2014 2:48 PM
I'm not going to give away details too finely, but I'd have fairly similar distros for Jones, Hause, and Murphy.
10/25/2014 3:01 PM
3pt shooting is the most misunderstood and underutilized weapon in HD. That being said, I am an aggressive attack coach based on 20 years RL experience and my utiliziation of the "3" in HD, I know what works for me. The short answer is that type of high PE, low distro will cost you 4-5 games a year. At least that's what it gives me a year. I love to beat teams with high ratings on paper but who in fact defend their own 3pt shooting by underutilzing it.

Only, let me put it another perspective. A 50% big is a potential All Conference performer and most coaches would be happy to have one. Yet a lot of coaches are reluctant to let a 33% 3pt shooter shoot. They produce the same amount of points on the same amount of shots. Now let's take that a step further. 35% from 3 = 53% 2, 37%= 56% and 40%=60%. 33% is good, 40% is unbelievable!

If we play a game and everything else is virtually equal, your formula will provide you with 3-4 made 3's a game for 9-12 points. I'm going to shoot about 23-25 3's and my average over all seasons in HD is  between 37-38%. If i shoot 25 @ 37% = 9.25 shots made or a little over 27 points. I have outscored yet by 15-18 points JUST by a more aggressive approach to 3's. I win decisively soley because I utilized the 3 better than you. I can't give you my formula because I don't want coaches getting more aggressive. It happens to be one of my big advantages. I will say generally my 50 PE guys start shooting 3's at 0. There are adjustments from there depending on their %.

I hope this different point of view gives you something to think about in formulating you coaching style. Best of luck in the future.





















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10/26/2014 2:02 PM
Who you are playing is a huge component as well.  The skills of the defenders and type of defense should play a huge roll in your +/- setting.
10/26/2014 6:52 PM
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