Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 2:06:00 PM (view original):
Individuals can and will be racist in any direction. That's not what I'm talking about.

The riots are happening because the black community is fed up with the systematic racism in America. That systematic racism is very real and isn't reversing against white people in any way.

Isn't the black man hatin' on whitey because he feels that whitey is hatin' on him racist in and of itself?

Sounds like you just want to excuse that way of thinking as "justifiable racism".  You're enabling the black community's racism.

As I said earlier, if that's how you feel, then you're part of the problem.

OK.  So this is not racist. I guess.

Posted by silentpadna on 11/25/2014 1:50:00 PM (view original):
"The riots are happening because the black community is fed up with the systematic racism in America. That systematic racism is very real and isn't reversing against white people in any way."

That may be true, but it should be pointed out to them that this issue is not an example of systemic racism.

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It seems like there is less interest in moving forward, and more interest in making excuses and enabling the pervasiveness of "blame whitey" in situations like Ferguson.

The media has just as much of the blame as anybody else, since racism, rioting, and inflamed emotions make for great TV coverage and job security.

Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 3:16:00 PM (view original):

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It seems like there is less interest in moving forward, and more interest in making excuses and enabling the pervasiveness of "blame whitey" in situations like Ferguson.

The media has just as much of the blame as anybody else, since racism, rioting, and inflamed emotions make for great TV coverage and job security.

Posted by bad_luck on 11/25/2014 3:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 3:16:00 PM (view original):

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It seems like there is less interest in moving forward, and more interest in making excuses and enabling the pervasiveness of "blame whitey" in situations like Ferguson.

The media has just as much of the blame as anybody else, since racism, rioting, and inflamed emotions make for great TV coverage and job security.

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It sounds like the fear and frustration of a community that feels like it's been victimized by the justice system.

I think you're confusing "we're mad at a system, controlled by white people, that has oppressed us," with "we hate white people because they are white."

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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/25/2014 12:24:00 PM (view original):
And, as I've said a million times, when you give people an excuse, they will use it.

"But when you've been figuratively been beaten down by law enforcement your entire life" is a fine example.   Go ahead and loot/riot.   You've been beaten down by law enforcement all your life, it's understandable. 

For ****'s sake.

That's the media narrative.

It gives them a chance for "LIVE: UPDATE FROM FERGUSON!!!!"  news bulletins.

I wonder how the Irish, Italian, and Jewish immigrants that were once so disliked and mistreated in america that they had to form our first gangs can now flourish peacefully? Or how Jews and minorities from the 1940s that were slaughtered for no good reason have rebounded so quickly in Europe? Or why we never see Asians or other minority groups that do well in this country rising up and crying 'inequality'? I wonder what their leaders preach to them?

I think a lot can be learned on how to get out of poverty from these groups... No.... I KNOW a lot can be learned.

Are you suggesting that African-Americans were viewed the same way as Irish and Italians Americans in the 1800s and early 1900s? Seriously?

You're suggesting what can be learned is "work hard." And seem to think that that's all it takes. 

Not at all...

I'm suggesting you take a good hard look at how these groups of people HAVE succeeded - they were ALL mistreated. I'm suggesting you read stories of immigrant life in early america and how those people with absolutely nothing and were blackballed from jobs have gotten to where they are today. I'm suggesting you take a look at how a black guy from kenya raised in a single parent home can become the president of the united states.

I'm suggesting you and others are of the 'poor them' mentality and instead of advancing their well-being you end up stagnating it at best. Its OK to say 'poor them' but WHAT are THEY going to do about it? Woe is me I'm black, Rioting, FTP mentality, Black on Black crime, black leaders like Jackson and Sharpton. It all needs to stop and be replaced with positivity and a sence to move forward. Jmo.

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Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 3:16:00 PM (view original):

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It seems like there is less interest in moving forward, and more interest in making excuses and enabling the pervasiveness of "blame whitey" in situations like Ferguson.

The media has just as much of the blame as anybody else, since racism, rioting, and inflamed emotions make for great TV coverage and job security.

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It sounds like the fear and frustration of a community that feels like it's been victimized by the justice system.

I think you're confusing "we're mad at a system, controlled by white people, that has oppressed us," with "we hate white people because they are white."

I think this is well said.  I asked tec before, when he said "this is the same as lynching in the 1930s" why people were lynched in the 1930s.  He didn't reply, probably because he realized the answer was "because he's black."  

This is different - Blacks in Ferguson seem like they're already furious that the Ferguson PD has treated them badly, and then this happened. They don't trust the justice system in place there, considering the system is run by people who have ****** them over before. It's basically a comparison of apples to telephones.

Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 3:35:00 PM (view original):
If someone were to say "I'm OK with black people, I just don't trust them" . . . would that be racist?

Because it seems like your message is that it's OK for the blacks to say "I have no problem with whitey, I just don't trust him".

Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 3:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 11/25/2014 3:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/25/2014 3:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 3:16:00 PM (view original):

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It seems like there is less interest in moving forward, and more interest in making excuses and enabling the pervasiveness of "blame whitey" in situations like Ferguson.

The media has just as much of the blame as anybody else, since racism, rioting, and inflamed emotions make for great TV coverage and job security.

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It sounds like the fear and frustration of a community that feels like it's been victimized by the justice system.

I think you're confusing "we're mad at a system, controlled by white people, that has oppressed us," with "we hate white people because they are white."

I think this is well said.  I asked tec before, when he said "this is the same as lynching in the 1930s" why people were lynched in the 1930s.  He didn't reply, probably because he realized the answer was "because he's black."  

This is different - Blacks in Ferguson seem like they're already furious that the Ferguson PD has treated them badly, and then this happened. They don't trust the justice system in place there, considering the system is run by people who have ****** them over before. It's basically a comparison of apples to telephones.

Why is it different?  It's not.

In the 30's, the blacks were the easy scapegoat.  Today, whenever there's an "incident" between blacks and whites, it's the racist white guy's fault.  Because apparently, in those situations, all white guys are racist.

Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 3:40:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by bad_luck on 11/25/2014 3:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 11/25/2014 3:16:00 PM (view original):

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It seems like there is less interest in moving forward, and more interest in making excuses and enabling the pervasiveness of "blame whitey" in situations like Ferguson.

The media has just as much of the blame as anybody else, since racism, rioting, and inflamed emotions make for great TV coverage and job security.

Again, if the idea is that "whitey's lying to the grand jury to fix the case in whitey's favor" . . . how does that sound?

It sounds like the fear and frustration of a community that feels like it's been victimized by the justice system.

I think you're confusing "we're mad at a system, controlled by white people, that has oppressed us," with "we hate white people because they are white."

I think this is well said.  I asked tec before, when he said "this is the same as lynching in the 1930s" why people were lynched in the 1930s.  He didn't reply, probably because he realized the answer was "because he's black."  

This is different - Blacks in Ferguson seem like they're already furious that the Ferguson PD has treated them badly, and then this happened. They don't trust the justice system in place there, considering the system is run by people who have ****** them over before. It's basically a comparison of apples to telephones.

Why is it different?  It's not.

In the 30's, the blacks were the easy scapegoat.  Today, whenever there's an "incident" between blacks and whites, it's the racist white guy's fault.  Because apparently, in those situations, all white guys are racist.