Posted by dahsdebater on 5/2/2013 3:12:00 PM (view original):
I don't think it's correct that considering credit can't bring a sim from behind; in fact, I think that's exactly what happened. There is a lot of bad information in this thread. Sims absolutely don't put in extra effort on guys that are still on their lists late in recruiting. Don't believe that. And sending effort until you knock the sim off or even get the FSS message putting you ahead is a huge waste of money. What I do, if I can afford it, is send one more HV after I get the scholarship message telling me I'm ahead, if I can afford it. Bump that up to D1 and you might want to send 1-2 CV or 3-4 HV to be safe, that's probably overkill, and you could experiment with it, but if you're more interested in recruiting reasonably successfully than coming up with the perfect method to beat sims then in the short term you certainly come out ahead going with safe over marginal. I don't think anybody knows the exact value of considering credit, it's maybe worth a few percent at most, so I guess maybe take a few percent of whatever effort it took to put you ahead and add that.
Something is obviously broken, since whenever you go behind you SHOULD get a scholarship message. But it seems that when leadership changes as a result of considering credit you don't get one. Been a problem for a while now...
i think you have the wrong concept of considering credit. because a thread came up a few weeks back, and i was one of the only people (probably the only person, really) who proposed the simple model -
considering credit is a % based increase in effort over time, applied each cycle after a certain "waiting period"
as opposed to a convoluted, complex model where after 24 hours you get this, 48 hours you get that, or something along those lines... because of that, i sent a ticket, and seble confirmed i had proposed the correct model of considering credit. he also confirmed that he could not think of any case where considering credit could cause a come-from-behind win, i asked that specifically. i was 95% sure of that considering credit model in the first place, so with seble's confirmation on top, im pretty sure thats the answer.
anyway, i agree that you shouldnt need to knock the sim off. however, i disagree that there is no way the sim is spending more. i know they didn't in the past. however, these issues have been cropping up for a while (the exact same issue presented in this thread), and the time frame IMO is not that different from when sim recruiting patterns were changed a couple years back. so from where im standing, either there is a bug, or sims are spending more. i could see it going either way.