Posted by jdno on 4/11/2013 5:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by gillispie1 on 4/11/2013 3:59:00 PM (view original):"you'd think you could spend a bunch and get a promise in at the end - but you cant. you'd also think you could spend a bunch and guaranteed get a redshirt in at the end (one you couldnt do at the beginning) - but you cant. "
i think order matters on visits but redshirts and promises are processed specially, for some reason. like, promises and redshirts are always processed FIRST, no matter when you do them. otherwise you'd think you could spend a bunch and get a promise in at the end - but you cant. you'd also think you could spend a bunch and guaranteed get a redshirt in at the end (one you couldnt do at the beginning) - but you cant.
best bet, do it a cycle early! i prefer to adjust my $110 specials around 2am or so, morning of signing day
I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here. If a kid is considering just me, are you saying if in the same cycle I first inform of r/s and then followw up with 4 HVs to encourage him to accept it that this won't work? That I have to reverse the order within the same cycle? Because I'm pretty sure this is what I do when I want him to know upfront that he'll be R/S during the season and I haven't had a problem.
Also, are you saying that to clear the promised start from a $110 special that I can't do (within the same cycle) the following actions in the order listed and have him still considering me the very next cycle?:
1. Inform of R/S
2. Inform of non R/S
3. Send 4 HVs
I am pretty sure I've done this before w/o a problem.
And just to be clear. when you guys say to do your actions the cycle before, all you do then is Inform of R/S and the Inform of non-R/S all within the same cycle (and no other actions) but after you've sent some HV/CVs in the previous cycle?
what im saying is this. suppose a recruit is considering another school alone. starts will automatically, guaranteed get rejected. now, if order mattered - couldnt you send like 10 CVs, knock the other guy off, and your start would get accepted? what im saying is, it doesnt. same for minutes - if you are considered with someone else, significantly behind, minutes will get rejected. doesnt matter if you send 100K of visits before that promise or not, it holds true. so, i DO think order comes into play for most things - but not promises.
if a kid is considering you, and you redshirt with 4 HVs in the same cycle, you are usually going to be fine. usually. but not always, you can actually get him to reject those home visits on you and not consider you. i dont think the order matters - others are saying, do the 4 HVs first, and you are guaranteed safe. i dont think it makes any difference at all, if you do the 4 HV then redshirt, or visa versa, or any other combination of those 5 actions.
in your second example, you CAN do that set of actions and have it work. there is just no guarantee. usually you'll be safe, but sometimes you'll end up getting your visits rejected (doing all 4 at once instead of 1 by 1 dramatically increases these odds).
just to be clear - that is according to my theory on how it works, im not 100% sure about all of it. things may have changed and there may be some nuances between your examples and my experience. im 100% positive that a few years ago, if you had a 110 special out, and did a few visits with a redshirt/no redshirt, you could get dropped from consideration. im also 100% positive that a few years ago, if you had a guy considering you, no promises - and you then did a redshirt + visits - you could get dropped from consideration.