6/21/2013 11:56 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/21/2013 11:11:00 AM (view original):
You can't/aren't going to answer.

I'll answer for you, both ways:

Yes, that's mike's point. It's irrelevant though because regulating marriage is a legal power of the states and the Feds have to recognize it once DOMA is thrown out.

OR

No, that's not mike's point. The entire secession topic was a non-sequitur circle jerk without a point.
Why are you so sure that DOMA is going to be throw out when you admittedly have no idea what the issue is that may decide it?
6/21/2013 12:04 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 6/21/2013 11:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/21/2013 11:11:00 AM (view original):
You can't/aren't going to answer.

I'll answer for you, both ways:

Yes, that's mike's point. It's irrelevant though because regulating marriage is a legal power of the states and the Feds have to recognize it once DOMA is thrown out.

OR

No, that's not mike's point. The entire secession topic was a non-sequitur circle jerk without a point.
Why are you so sure that DOMA is going to be throw out when you admittedly have no idea what the issue is that may decide it?
DOMA and Prop 8 are two different issues.

DOMA will get tossed because the feds don't have the power to regulate marriage.

Prop 8 might get thrown out due to standing rules. I don't know the standing rules, it's just what I've read/heard on the news.
6/21/2013 12:07 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/21/2013 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/20/2013 5:36:00 PM (view original):
Point A)  You're a ******* idiot with the retention capabilities of an ADD-addled 3 y/o
Point B)  The states that seceded in the 1860s didn't care if it was legal
Point C)  Just because a state does something, like allowing SSM, doesn't mean the Feds have to recognize it
This, you brain-dead ****.

No retention whatsoever.
Point C)  Just because a state does something, like allowing SSM, doesn't mean the Feds have to recognize it

I see your point. It's retarded.

Here's why:

When the states seceded the feds didn't have to recognize it because the secession wasn't legal.
When the states regulate marriage (or allow gay marriage), the feds have to recognize it because legal authority over marriage resides within the individual states.
6/21/2013 12:17 PM
Do you recall any time, in the history of the US, when the Feds stepped in with regard to marriage laws dictated by the states?

Anyway, do you believe states' rights prevent Federal interference on all issues?
6/21/2013 12:37 PM
Yes, DOMA, which will be thrown out next week.

No.
6/21/2013 12:53 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/21/2013 12:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 6/21/2013 11:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/21/2013 11:11:00 AM (view original):
You can't/aren't going to answer.

I'll answer for you, both ways:

Yes, that's mike's point. It's irrelevant though because regulating marriage is a legal power of the states and the Feds have to recognize it once DOMA is thrown out.

OR

No, that's not mike's point. The entire secession topic was a non-sequitur circle jerk without a point.
Why are you so sure that DOMA is going to be throw out when you admittedly have no idea what the issue is that may decide it?
DOMA and Prop 8 are two different issues.

DOMA will get tossed because the feds don't have the power to regulate marriage.

Prop 8 might get thrown out due to standing rules. I don't know the standing rules, it's just what I've read/heard on the news.
Where is it written that feds can't regulate marriage?

Shouldn't they have a say in deciding who gets federal benefits?
6/21/2013 1:00 PM
We've talked about this before. 10th amendment. Do you disagree?
6/21/2013 1:05 PM
Yes.  I don't consider "defining marriage" a "power".
6/21/2013 1:19 PM
That's stupid. Power is just a synonym for authority.
6/21/2013 1:31 PM
It's funny to hear you, after 226 pages in this thread, calling other people's opinions "stupid".
6/21/2013 1:53 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/21/2013 12:37:00 PM (view original):
Yes, DOMA, which will be thrown out next week.

No.
So, only once in US history has the Feds stepped in regarding marriage laws?
6/21/2013 1:56 PM
LOL
6/21/2013 2:00 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/21/2013 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/21/2013 12:37:00 PM (view original):
Yes, DOMA, which will be thrown out next week.

No.
So, only once in US history has the Feds stepped in regarding marriage laws?
Maybe the Feds have passed other laws regarding marriage. I didn't say that was the only time.
6/21/2013 2:01 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 6/21/2013 1:31:00 PM (view original):
It's funny to hear you, after 226 pages in this thread, calling other people's opinions "stupid".
A) you've been here too, jackass.
B) it was stupid. I see that you didn't actually respond to the point.
6/21/2013 2:03 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/21/2013 2:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/21/2013 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/21/2013 12:37:00 PM (view original):
Yes, DOMA, which will be thrown out next week.

No.
So, only once in US history has the Feds stepped in regarding marriage laws?
Maybe the Feds have passed other laws regarding marriage. I didn't say that was the only time.
Maybe?   Haven't you been screaming a particular year out for 200 pages saying "THEY CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE ALREADY!!!!"?
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