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2/7/2013 10:25 AM
Back on topic. Ray Lewis is still the ******* man!
2/7/2013 10:32 AM
Posted by Jtpsops on 2/7/2013 10:15:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 2/7/2013 9:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Jtpsops on 2/7/2013 8:13:00 AM (view original):
Evolution is not fact. Sorry to burst your bubble junior.
But there's evidence (a lot of it) for evolution.
It only took 20+ pages, but could this finally be an admission that evolution isn't an indisputable fact?
I've never claimed evolution was indisputable. All of the evidence points to it.

The old earth, on the other hand, is a fact.
2/7/2013 10:39 AM
So can you form a sentence without using "science" or "evidence"?

And do you go out of your way to be an *******?
2/7/2013 10:53 AM
LOL again I'm tempted to unblock bad luck just so I can watch the ridiculousness of him arguing with MikeT23
2/7/2013 10:54 AM
You already quoted me. I know I'm not blocked.
2/7/2013 11:06 AM

Good for you.   You did form a sentence without the use of "science" or "evidence".

Now, on to the 2nd part, do you go out of your way to be an *******?
 

2/7/2013 11:21 AM
I did it - I showed one post of bad_luck's, and surprise surprise he's addressing me!

To top it off, he's claiming I quoted him and he's not blocked. LOL this is the first I've looked at a post of yours in some time, and I haven't quoted you in even longer.

Or did you say something under one of your other user names that I don't have blocked and I quoted that? Might want to keep track of those user names and what you post where.

You're back on block now unless I get curious again, but I doubt it. Maybe if MikeT23 indicates you've engaged him in the ridiculous argument I'm hoping for, both otherwise no.

2/7/2013 11:27 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2013 2:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bistiza on 2/5/2013 2:38:00 PM (view original):
You're right, for the most part, supermodels look like any other attractive woman you'd see in a bar on a Saturday night or laying out by the pool in Vegas. But there are tiny differences in symmetry that make the supermodels more attractive. You're free to be attracted to anyone you want but don't pretend that supermodel looks are a dime a dozen, because they aren't.

I think they ARE a dime a dozen. Just because most people (and especially most men) act like slobbering cave men dragging a club when they see a woman they have been conditioned to believe is attractive does not mean she's anything special except by those same societal standards.
But to claim that society tells us what is attractive is naive.  Some things (and some people) are inherently more attractive than others.

Let me burst your bubble here: It's a FACT that society tells its people what to find attractive.

What you find attractive is based at least somewhat on cultural norms and the things you have been exposed to throughout your life within your particular culture and society. You have your own individual tastes, but they are influenced by what society says and demonstrates to be attractive or not attractive.

So when you say "some things (and some people) are inherently more attractive than others", this is only true because society has dictated it to be the case.

To make this more clear: Several hundred years ago large women were considered more attractive because society valued them as they were considered well-fed and therefore likely to be from affluence (as you wouldn't be well-fed if you couldn't afford the food back then).

Now those women are not considered to be supremely attractive at all by most of society. If you took the thin models considered supremely attractive today and put them in that society, they wouldn't be as attractive - not just to the society, but to the individuals within that society who have assimilated their own feelings on attractiveness from that society.
They really aren't a dime a dozen. Maybe the idea of who is hot is socially constructed, but the percentage of women who fit in that idealized description is extremely small.
See that first paragraph starting with, "you're right?"

That's me.
2/7/2013 11:28 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2013 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bistiza on 2/5/2013 12:02:00 PM (view original):
While most of society defines a good-looking woman by the same boring and bland characteristics, "biz" actually chooses to think for himself, and "biz" likes a woman who doesn't have cookie-cutter society-defined looks.

There's nothing special about most women who are models or are considered good looking. They all have the same essential body type and the same facial features. Sure, they're not ugly by any means, but I find it amazing how many people think they are incredibly attractive when they have "dime a dozen" looks. You just don't realize it because you're told they're supremely attractive, both by societal pressures and sometimes explicitly, and you can't see beyond it.
Completely disagree.

When I was in college I parked cars at a trendy hotel. One day a cab pulled up and a young woman got out. She was wearing jeans, a plain tank top, had no make-up on, and her hair in a pony tail. The entire place froze. Men, literally in mid-sentence, stopped and watched her walk through the lobby and up to the front desk to check in. She was stunning and no one had any idea who she was.

After she went up to her room, a bunch of us crowded around the concierge desk while he looked up her name in the hotel system and googled her. It was Petra Nemcova.

You're right, for the most part, supermodels look like any other attractive woman you'd see in a bar on a Saturday night or laying out by the pool in Vegas. But there are tiny differences in symmetry that make the supermodels more attractive. You're free to be attracted to anyone you want but don't pretend that supermodel looks are a dime a dozen, because they aren't.
See. Good job trying to go back and delete it, though.
2/7/2013 11:30 AM
Posted by bistiza on 2/6/2013 2:04:00 PM (view original):
But to claim that society tells us what is attractive is naive.  Some things (and some people) are inherently more attractive than others.

Let me burst your bubble here: It's a FACT that society tells its people what to find attractive.

What you find attractive is based at least somewhat on cultural norms and the things you have been exposed to throughout your life within your particular culture and society. You have your own individual tastes, but they are influenced by what society says and demonstrates to be attractive or not attractive.

So when you say "some things (and some people) are inherently more attractive than others", this is only true because society has dictated it to be the case.

To make this more clear: Several hundred years ago large women were considered more attractive because society valued them as they were considered well-fed and therefore likely to be from affluence (as you wouldn't be well-fed if you couldn't afford the food back then).

Now those women are not considered to be supremely attractive at all by most of society. If you took the thin models considered supremely attractive today and put them in that society, they wouldn't be as attractive - not just to the society, but to the individuals within that society who have assimilated their own feelings on attractiveness from that society.
Retard. You went back and edited the original post to pretend like it didn't happen. Haaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa.
2/7/2013 11:49 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 2/7/2013 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Jtpsops on 2/7/2013 10:15:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 2/7/2013 9:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Jtpsops on 2/7/2013 8:13:00 AM (view original):
Evolution is not fact. Sorry to burst your bubble junior.
But there's evidence (a lot of it) for evolution.
It only took 20+ pages, but could this finally be an admission that evolution isn't an indisputable fact?
I've never claimed evolution was indisputable. All of the evidence points to it.

The old earth, on the other hand, is a fact.
You're a moron. When I'm not on my phone, I'll go back and find the MANY times you've presented evolution as an undisputed fact (unless you delete them first). Even tec, who shares your belief, has chastised you for your foolish assertion of evolution as concrete truth.
2/7/2013 11:56 AM
No I didn't. Old earth is undisputed. Evolution is based on the evidence we have. Creationism is based on zero evidence. The case for creationism is as strong as the case for alien anus world birth.
2/7/2013 12:19 PM
Goddammit.  You broke your streak of no "evidence" or "science".    That sucks.

Do you go out of your way to be an *******?
2/7/2013 12:35 PM
Creationist:  I believe in God.

Scientist:  Seriously?  That's ridiculous.  It's a fable created to make up for a gap in human understanding.  I only believe in things that can be proven.

Creationist:  Okay, explain dark matter to me.

Scientist:  It's this stuff that makes up the vast majority of the universe.  I mean, I think it does.  I'm not really sure what it's made of of, or what relation it has to other matter.  Or if I'd be able to identify it if I saw it.  I can't tell you its properties, how it is created, whether what we have exists from the creation of the universe or if there is some mechanism that continues to process it, but we have no other explanation that fits in with everything else we think we know, so its existence must be real.

Creationist:  So it's a fable created to make up for a gap in human understanding?

Scientist:  No, it's science!
2/7/2013 1:09 PM
bad_luck loves to toss around words like "science" and "evidence" because he thinks they make him sound intelligent. Too bad everything else he says reveals he isn't intelligent at all.

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