Posted by bad_luck on 12/27/2012 11:40:00 AM (view original):

The first and second laws of thermodynamics. 

Not sure what that has to do with the age of the earth.

The fact that carbon-14 should break down to virtually nothing past a certain point in terms of dates and yet it is difficult to find carbon without carbon-14, which with an old earth model should be virtually non-existent much of the time.

dahs already covered this. Carbon 14 is produced in the atmosphere. Not sure why you would think it would be non-existent.

The fossil record shows many strata of rock which are thought to be formed over "millions of years" can actually form quite quickly. Sometimes there are fossils, including petrified trees, which span straight through several layers indicating they may have formed quite suddenly.

Can you explain this further?

Posted by genghisxcon on 12/28/2012 9:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bistiza on 12/28/2012 4:12:00 PM (view original):

Yes. And over time, science debunked these notions. To attempt to portray yourself as open-minded because you can see both sides of the flat earth vs round earth "issue" is ridiculous. Your young earth "theory" falls into this category.

The difference is that there is scientific evidence to support a young earth model (I listed some before in the other thread, but I'm not going to rehash it now), just as there is to support an older earth model. THAT is why I remain neutral on the subject.

The problem is that too many people can't look at the evidence from anything remotely resembling an unbiased point of view, and you're obviously among them.

You take the word of mainstream science as unquestioned gospel, which is surprising in this day and age when you can easily look up evidence for any and all scientific theories if you so desire.

Yet instead of reading the information with an open mind, you accept what has been spoon-fed to you and spew it back out without ever looking at any of it with a critical eye or thinking for yourself.

I guess I can understand why you do that.  The pressure to conform and join the group think  is enormous. After all, if you dare to think for yourself and somehow come to a conclusion other than that of the majority - even if you don't take a side - someone like bad_luck may attack you mercilessly and most people would rather avoid dealing with those kinds of issues.

"The difference is that there is scientific evidence to support a young earth model (I listed some before in the other thread, but I'm not going to rehash it now), just as there is to support an older earth model. THAT is why I remain neutral on the subject."


Horseshit. I'm not sure where you posted your "evidence," though I'd just about bet you have some of Duane Gish's nonsense in there. In any case, the thermodynamics objections have long been part of the creationist literature (btw, can we stop pretending this "young earth" crap is anything but a prelude to creationism?) and has long since been discredited. Ironic that you don't want to rehash what you posted in another thread, but scientists are supposed to keep answering an objection that was debunked before you were born, ad infinitum, just so you can pretend you're discussing a "competing" theory.

And I haven't even mentioned the countless areas of well established science that need to be thrown out to accommodate your crackpotology, I'm sorry, "theory." Biology, geology, radiocarbon dating, for starters. But the best part is that we are apparently contemporaries of the dinosaurs. To paraphrase Lewis Black, I can't be kind about this, because bis is watching The Flintstones as if it were a documentary.



As for the masturbatory drivel that is paragraphs 2-5 of your post, it scarcely merits a response. I will say I'm reminded of the words of John Dewey. He argued that genuine open-mindedness is like being hospitable to guests; it is not tantamount to putting a sign out saying, "Come on in, no one's home."

Sorry to disappoint you, bis, but someone is home.

Posted by bistiza on 1/15/2013 11:28:00 AM (view original):
Getting the last word on this one too, I see.

tecwrg should see this. You are literally redefining what it means to be "attention-whoring troll".

You already fit the existing definition, but now you're going above and beyond into new levels of both attention-whoring and trolling.

You never responded to this, bis.

You dropped the ball.

You're done here.

Yet, the debate continues, because you keep it alive.

Every time you post, everyone reading this is reminded of the fact that you think the earth is 10,000 years old.

Posted by bistiza on 1/15/2013 1:00:00 PM (view original):

Yet, the debate continues, because you keep it alive.

The debate has been dead for a long time. You keep begging for it to be brought back to life, but it never happens.

If you think my pointing out your failures and watching you squirm is "keeping it alive" then you have less grasp of what is going on here than I even thought you had - and I thought you had next to zero grasp on it to begin with.

Every time you post, everyone reading this is reminded of the fact that you think the earth is 10,000 years old.

Couple of points for you to think about:

First, you're once again trying to twist what I said. I said I'm neutral on the subject, which is completely different from what you state here.  Once again you try to play games and twist things and I point out how you're wrong.

Second, I have no problem at all with anyone knowing my stance on the subject (provided they know my true stance and not your twisted BS). I'm proud of being someone who thinks for himself and isn't a pathetic sheep following the masses off the cliff of commonly accepted information. I don't care what ignorant bullies such as yourself (and several others here) think of me or my opinions, because your ignorance shows how little you matter.

What people are also reminded of is how you lost the debate when you gave up (your first failure). They also get to see how you beg to restart the debate and fail to get that from me (a second failure). They also get to see your ignorant childish bullying tactics, such as insults and name calling. Two huge failures and the knowledge that you're an ignorant child are not good things, and yet they are your only accomplishments here.