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12/6/2012 6:43 AM
Would you ever recruit a C with speed of 1?
12/6/2012 7:19 AM
Unlikely
12/6/2012 7:43 AM
Depending on his other skills, I would. Here is a guy I recruited that had I believe 4 SPD but it has gone up to 10 and it is now red. I did it because his ATH is so high.

http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=2302107
12/6/2012 7:53 AM
If he had high block, high ath, and the team played a Zone.
12/6/2012 8:43 AM
His rebounding is phenomenal, his defense is very very good, and his LP should turn out really nice. However, I run the press and a 1 speed would proably kill me huh?
12/6/2012 8:44 AM
I did once.  It was stupid cuz I played press.  He had great ath, def, reb, and good lp and by the time he graduated he was up to 5 speed, but it killed my whole team speed.  I wouldn't do it again for press.  Maybe if I was playing zone.
12/6/2012 8:52 AM
Great insight dan. What was so bad about him when he played? Did he foul a lot? Get scored on a lot by getting beat back? I'm just curious because it would seem that if you had good speed at the 1-3, you might be okay.
12/6/2012 10:40 AM
My d2 press team has three posts under twenty, however one has an 83 ath and a 99 def, the other two have over seventy ath and high potential in speed. If are going to be that slow in the post in press you need to compensate with a really nice ath/def combo.
12/6/2012 12:12 PM
depends on the O and D.

I used to play zone and motion, so I had a bunch of really slow centers.

If I ran a press uptempo attack, i would not.
12/6/2012 12:24 PM
At DIII I realize I can't pay attention to all of the ratings for every position or I'll rarely if ever find a player I think is even worthy of recruiting. Players at DIII are flawed in some way; I simply try to choose where that flaw is to whatever extent possible.

One of the attributes I never pay attention to is speed for a center. If it's there, it's there. If not, I don't even let it bother me, because if I worry about it, I'll probably be sacrificing attributes somewhere else to find a center that has whatever speed I deem necessar

So yes I would recruit a center with 1 speed as I don't deem speed important at center.  I'd much rather have a guy with 1 speed and 70 plus at ATH, REB, and LP than a guy with 30 speed and only 50 in those areas.

12/6/2012 1:17 PM
Posted by bistiza on 12/6/2012 12:24:00 PM (view original):
At DIII I realize I can't pay attention to all of the ratings for every position or I'll rarely if ever find a player I think is even worthy of recruiting. Players at DIII are flawed in some way; I simply try to choose where that flaw is to whatever extent possible.

One of the attributes I never pay attention to is speed for a center. If it's there, it's there. If not, I don't even let it bother me, because if I worry about it, I'll probably be sacrificing attributes somewhere else to find a center that has whatever speed I deem necessar

So yes I would recruit a center with 1 speed as I don't deem speed important at center.  I'd much rather have a guy with 1 speed and 70 plus at ATH, REB, and LP than a guy with 30 speed and only 50 in those areas.

+1
At D3, as long as you don't run a press or fastbreak, I think it's safe to ignore speed for centers and hardly care about it for PFs
I feel like it could be the same at D2, but I only have experience there with a pressing team.
12/6/2012 1:22 PM
I would use a single digit speed centers on my DII Triangle/Man team.   I would think nothing of using one on a DIII team.
12/6/2012 4:37 PM (edited)
Posted by alblack56 on 12/6/2012 7:20:00 AM (view original):
Unlikely

i am surprised by some of the answers here, just replying to the first one i see. i wouldnt balk at a 1 speed center even if i was playing press and trying to build a d1 national championship team. speed for your center = not very relevant in any way (very minor factor on offense and defense, non factor in rebounding). if you have per on your C, spd is a little more important, for offense. but for defense, its really not a big deal - even in the press (i completely reject the idea a center could bring down team speed in a meaningful way that hurts the press. even in its hay day, when press was magic, it was speed at the 1-3 that really mattered, at the 4, it was moderately useful, and at the 5, not very useful. now, speed is less useful in the press across the board, so i think its still not very useful at the 5).

some of my best centers (who did win championships) had single digit speed. ive had at least 2-3 d2 championship quality centers with exactly 1 speed, and i intentionally tried to find fault with them, but there was none (except the common flaw that bigs suck on offense). to sum it up - when i had my great d1 and d2 runs, it was ALL playing press, and i loved speed more than just about any coach in the game - rule number one of EVERY one of those great teams i had, was to have great speed, for a nasty nasty press. i was a total speed junkie. one of my d2 teams during all those championships, it had 6 guards with over 90 speed. so, i studied the **** out of speed at the 4-5, trying to get an even bigger advantage from speed. but speed at the 4 was limited, and basically useless at the 5. so all those championship teams in the end, certainly during my 2 great runs, i essentially totally ignored speed (for centers).

the only comment ill make in support of speed is, i didn't push per in my bigs either, which was a mistake - although seble has changed it, so its not like it was as bad then to do that, as it is now - and i had enough offense from guards, it never really hurt me. speed is effectively shot blocking for guards, when you have a low per big, but it might be *slightly* more valuable with high per bigs. i am very confident to say, unless you are competing at a top 10 coach in HD history level, and maybe even still then, you are totally safe to completely ignore speed at the 5, unless you have a high scoring per oriented big. like, assign it 0 points in an equation, don't even look at it. now, if its a per high scoring big, which is a new thing to me, theres value in it - so look. but 90% of centers aren't that way.

12/6/2012 4:37 PM
shush cbg, I don't want everyone to battle me for that 90 ath/1 speed big that I have been consistently recruiting at low end D1. 
12/6/2012 4:38 PM
Posted by tianyi7886 on 12/6/2012 4:37:00 PM (view original):
shush cbg, I don't want everyone to battle me for that 90 ath/1 speed big that I have been consistently recruiting at low end D1. 
i won my championships, so i have no need to keep the book closed :) 
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