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12/5/2012 4:59 PM
I played soccer as a fat kid.  True story.
12/5/2012 8:15 PM
Were you good at it...Were you happy?
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12/5/2012 11:34 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 12/5/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dahsdebater on 12/4/2012 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Soccer isn't on TV as much as other sports because adults, who largely didn't grow up with it, don't like to watch it.  But the vast majority of the people who play it enjoy it.  More parents push their children into football and baseball than push their children into soccer.  Kids play soccer because they want to.  Why would parents who hate soccer so much push their children to play it?  Or are the socialists somehow forcing the children to play soccer?  And how, exactly, does that work?  What is the machinery of this plot?  How are the left-wingers forcing people to play soccer when it's the parents who sign kids up for soccer teams/leagues and pay their fees and take them to games?

Just because it doesn't get the TV coverage of the NBA, NFL, or MLB doesn't mean people don't like the sport.  A lot more people like to play tennis than watch it.  More people like to play golf than watch it.  On the other hand, a very small subset of the population ever plays hockey in any capacity, yet the NHL gets a decent amount of airtime (less than the big 3 leagues, but a decent amount).

FWIW, this might be of interest:

Beginning in 2013-14, NBCUniversal will become the exclusive U.S. media rights holder for Barclays EPL.  According to Richard Sandomir of the New York Times, NBC will pay the EPL $80-85 million annually and televise up to 380 games a season on NBC, the NBC Sports Network and at least two other cable networks.
So obviously some people want to watch soccer, or at least NBC is gambling on them wanting to.  The average attendance at MLS games this past season was near 19,000, which is significantly better than the NHL and marginally better than the NBA.  Admittedly this was over a shorter season, but MLB has the longest season of all and blows away the NBA and NHL in per-game attendance, so it's not a totally linear trend.  There is certainly an impact of popularity on per-game attendance, and that tells me that people want to watch MLS soccer in the United States.  And apparently NBC thinks they want to watch the really high-quality soccer coming out of England's top division as well.
Most of this is happening post infection.

In the beggining of "Night of the living Dead" very few zombies are around. Later in the movie their are many. That doesnt mean that they would have appeared if the meteor didnt hit.

There was a time in America where not only did almost no one watch soccer, but there was kind of hostility against it, at least in my area.

Then kids started playing it. I mentioned that I played it in high school in 1980. There was almost no support for it then.

It almost seems that support for the sport was backwards. People were forced to play it, and then they got interested in it.

And I want to stress that fat kids can play baseball, football, hockey and even basketball. They cannot play soccer. The player profile is far more restrictive than most sports.
so, playing soccer is alot like being a zombie??   I admit watching soccer can make me wish I was undead, but playing can be fun.
12/5/2012 11:52 PM (edited)
Posted by swamphawk22 on 12/4/2012 2:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jm1618 on 12/3/2012 7:17:00 PM (view original):
So is it a right wing conspiracy when the US tries to develop intrest in baseball and football around the world?
If they want to try to get kids interested in soccer and go from there great.

No one follows soccer, but lots of kids are put in leagues.
Who, exactly, is forcing kids to play soccer?

And I don't know if you recall, but there was a lot of excitement in America about the World Cup in 2010.

Also, I'd like you to answer my original question.  Because it seems kind of similar to how the NFL holds a game in London every year, and is talking about expanding there, when there's almost no interest in Europe for American Football.

12/6/2012 12:03 AM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 12/5/2012 8:15:00 PM (view original):
Were you good at it...Were you happy?
I actually wasn't bad, I was strictly a back, certainly couldn't have played in the midfield by the time I turned about 11 or 12 and started to put on some weight, but I could play.  At least up until I started getting ingrown toenails, which ultimately forced me to quit.

If I weren't happy, why would I have been playing?
12/6/2012 12:28 AM
Posted by dahsdebater on 12/6/2012 12:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 12/5/2012 8:15:00 PM (view original):
Were you good at it...Were you happy?
I actually wasn't bad, I was strictly a back, certainly couldn't have played in the midfield by the time I turned about 11 or 12 and started to put on some weight, but I could play.  At least up until I started getting ingrown toenails, which ultimately forced me to quit.

If I weren't happy, why would I have been playing?
Forced to by the liebral school inteligencia.
12/6/2012 12:30 AM
<<Forced to by the liebral school inteligencia.>>

LOL..... <<inteligencia>>
12/6/2012 5:16 PM
Posted by jm1618 on 12/5/2012 11:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 12/4/2012 2:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jm1618 on 12/3/2012 7:17:00 PM (view original):
So is it a right wing conspiracy when the US tries to develop intrest in baseball and football around the world?
If they want to try to get kids interested in soccer and go from there great.

No one follows soccer, but lots of kids are put in leagues.
Who, exactly, is forcing kids to play soccer?

And I don't know if you recall, but there was a lot of excitement in America about the World Cup in 2010.

Also, I'd like you to answer my original question.  Because it seems kind of similar to how the NFL holds a game in London every year, and is talking about expanding there, when there's almost no interest in Europe for American Football.

Forced may be a tad strong but in reality kids dont get a real vote.

There is excitement in the Olympics, but none wants to watch Decathalons on tv.

Adults playing a game for money isnt the same as kids leagues. Also if soccer was put in front of kids and everyone loved it I would look silly bringing this up, but that isnt what happened.
12/6/2012 5:39 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 12/6/2012 5:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jm1618 on 12/5/2012 11:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 12/4/2012 2:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jm1618 on 12/3/2012 7:17:00 PM (view original):
So is it a right wing conspiracy when the US tries to develop intrest in baseball and football around the world?
If they want to try to get kids interested in soccer and go from there great.

No one follows soccer, but lots of kids are put in leagues.
Who, exactly, is forcing kids to play soccer?

And I don't know if you recall, but there was a lot of excitement in America about the World Cup in 2010.

Also, I'd like you to answer my original question.  Because it seems kind of similar to how the NFL holds a game in London every year, and is talking about expanding there, when there's almost no interest in Europe for American Football.

Forced may be a tad strong but in reality kids dont get a real vote.

There is excitement in the Olympics, but none wants to watch Decathalons on tv.

Adults playing a game for money isnt the same as kids leagues. Also if soccer was put in front of kids and everyone loved it I would look silly bringing this up, but that isnt what happened.
I'd say kids are more forced to play baseball, basketball and football more so than soccer.  I've noticed that with all my friends kids.  They've pushed them into Tee-Ball and Basketball.  I've noticed some of those kids not liking that....and most of them are now playing soccer (ages 4-7).  They (the kids) chose to play soccer.

This whole argument is retarded.  
12/6/2012 5:45 PM
No one watches decathlon in the Olympics either.  But there is interest in soccer here.  It isn't as great as it could be, because the best leagues are several time zones away.
12/6/2012 6:52 PM
Of course we all know how much kids hate baseball.

This is the ultimate reason we need a 100 people in the mall poll!
12/6/2012 6:58 PM
You better not take one, it will make you look like an idiot.
12/6/2012 7:00 PM
Taking things in a slightly different direction, don't the arguments that soccer is a socialist plot AND that only a small subset of the population are physically suited to the game seem a little contradictory to you?  Wouldn't a socialist plot push a game that REALLY everybody could play?  Like Go Fish?
12/6/2012 7:08 PM
No one ever sccused the socialists of being smart
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