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11/4/2012 1:14 AM
Wannabe XLVII - Bat Out Of Hell

Welcome to the largest team blacklist in the entire universe!

We are winding up our 46th season and it's time to pick teams for the 47th go-around. I'll just post the rules we've used for the first 46 seasons and we'll go on from there. Everyone who was in Season XLVI is guaranteed a spot this time if they want to stay. Anyone who wants to get on the wait-list can just leave their name and we'll take them as spots open up. First come, first served (although owners with 5 or more previous seasons in wannabe are bumped to the front of the waitlist). It's always a fun league with a lot of league wide banter.

* $100 million cap
* NO WW
* NO AAA
* No Trades

2012 teams will be available this time, based on current rosters.


Pick any team from any year. (For this season we've blacklisted the teams used in seasons 1 through 46. I'll post a list of those teams here in the forum.) Get the roster from www.baseball-reference.com and use anyone who played for your team that year. You can use any season of their career as long as they made at least 1 appearance for your team during the year you picked. Simple enough, right? I think everyone has this figured out by now, but if you don't, just ask.

Playing out of position is OK at your own peril.

NO AAA. If you're playing with the '75 Reds, then use the players on that team, not some imaginary players. Make sure you draft enough innings pitched and enough at-bats per position.

You can pick any $200K player from any year in your franchise history. It doesn't matter if you have a backup available from your year or not. If you want a $200K player, take one. Actually, you can even take a $250K player if you want. Anyone who comes up during the $200K + or - $50K search is OK with me. If there isn't a $200K guy available, you can use the cheapest you can find. If you pick the Rockies, Diamondbacks, Devil Rays, or Marlins, you can use all 4 of those teams for your $200K pool. If you have any questions about this, just ask.

(With the salary changes, it may be tougher to find $200K players for some teams. If it becomes a problem, we'll work something out.)

NO CLONES.

If you pick an old-time team that only had 7 pitchers, fill the other slots with $200K's from your franchise history. You probably won't need their innings anyway and you can use them as mop-ups.

Only 1 team per owner. I want to give everyone a chance if they want to play.

Use the stadium your team played in. If it's not available, then use another one in the same city or a reasonable alternative.

Name your team anything you want.

Bust some chops in the forum. If you sweep me, feel free to tell me how much my team sucks and how great your team is. And laugh it off when someone does the same to you.

Only one person can have a specific team and season. The first one to grab the '61 Yankees gets them. The next Yankee fan has to settle for the '27 team or whatever their other favorite is. I don't care how many Yankee teams are in the league as long as each one is a different season.

Head2Head is fine with me as long as it's the next game on the schedule. I don't want anyone jumping ahead. There will be NO Head2Head after game #120. (Since H2H is now free to everyone, I'm making a slight change here. Instead of just the next game, you can play the next full series H2H if you want. Just don't jump ahead of the schedule, and still NO H2H after game #120.)

My guess is that divisions will be along time lines, but I don't have any real preference. In the first 43 leagues, we've used time lines for the divisions, but we're flexible. If you want to be in a division with someone else, we'll work it out.

Whatever I forgot to include I'll throw in later. Let me know if you see a problem. I know these rules are different from some of the other twist leagues, but they can work.

* Do not use the same team without at least a 5 year span between them. If someone else has the '27 Yankees, then don't use the '23-'32 Yankees. This rule is in place to have more variety in the teams we choose and the rosters. Exceptions can be made by the commissioner if he feels the rosters are different enough.
11/4/2012 1:15 AM
Blacklisted Teams:
 
These are the blacklisted teams. mfumar actually put some effort into this and organized them alphabetically and in chronological order. I know we're going to run out of teams at the rate we're going, but it's fun looking for new teams to twist. We talked about doing away with the blacklist because of the recent changes, but I think most of us want to keep it. I like seeing different teams each time around. 
 
A's:(40) '02, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '95, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2006
 
Angels:(20) '61, '62, '67, '71, '77, '79, '82, '83, '84, '85, '87, '90, '91, '92, '97, '99, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008
 
Astros:(29) '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '72, '76, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '95, '97, '98, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006
 
Blue Jays:(19) '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2008
 
Braves:(44) 1898, 1899, 1900, '17, '19, '35, '42, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '75, '82, '88, '89, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
 
Brewers:(12) '69, '78, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '91, '92, '93, 2008
 
Cards:(73) 1887, 1889, 1899, '00, '21, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '34, '38, '39, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '46, '47, '48, '50, '51, '52, '55, '56, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '73, '74, '75, '80, '81, '82, '83, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
 
Colonels:(1) 1899
 
Cubs:(53) '06, '07, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '16, '26, '29, '32, '33, '34, '35, '39, '44, '45, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, 74, '77, '78, '80, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '91, '92, '93, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
 
Diamondbacks:(8) '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008
 
Dodgers:(70) 1899, 1900, '01, '26, '29, '31, '32, '33, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '71, '72, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '85, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
 
Giants:(69) 1888, '04, '05, '06, '08, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '16, '17, '18, '19, '20, '21, '22, '23, '24, '27, '28, '29, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '36, '39, '41, '42, '51, '52, '54, '55, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '75, '76, '79, '80, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '93, '98, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2011
 
Indians:(52) '02, '03, '04, '09, '10, '14, '19, '20, '21, '22, '31, '37, '39, '41, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '64, '65, '66, '67, '74, '75, '82, '86, '87, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
 
Mariners:(21) '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010
 
Marlins:(7) '96, '97, '98, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005
 
Mets:(28) '67, '69, '70, '72, '73, '75, '76, '79, '82, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '99, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
 
Nationals/Expos:(13) '79, '80, '81, '82, '84, '85, '89, '90, '94, '95, '96, 2002, 2005
 
Orioles/Browns:(48) '17, '22, '25, '43, '44, '53, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '88, '90, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
 
Orioles (Old Time):(4) 1894, 1895, 1897, 1898
 
Padres:(11) '78, '79, '87, '90, '96, '97, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
 
Phillies:(58) 1891, 1892, 1893, 1895, 1896, 1898, 1899, '00, '01, '12, '13, '16, '17, '21, '30, '36, '41, '45, '48, '49, '54, '56, '59, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '89, '90, '93, '94, '95, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
 
Pirates:(44) '00, '01, '02, '03, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '15, '22, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '29, '33, '35, '39, '47, '65, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '74, '75, '77, '79, '81, '83, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, 2001
 
Rangers:(20) '71, '74, '77, '78, '79, '80, '85, '86, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '98, '99, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2008

Rays: (2) '99, 2000
 
Red Sox:(60) '07, '08, '09, '12, '14, '15, '16, '19, '39, '40, '41, '42, '46, '48, '52, '65, '66, '67, '68, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
 
Reds [Boston AA]:(2) 1890, 1891
 
Reds:(47) '02, '13, '19, '20, '23, '25, '26, '27, '32,  '33, '37, '39, '40, '41, '47, '52, '56, '57, '59, '62, '63, '64, '65, '67, '68, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '94, '95, '96, '99, 2007
 
Rockies:(4) '95, '97, '98, 2009
 
Royals:(15) '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '82, '83, '85, '86, '89, '90, '91, 2004
 
Spiders:(3) 1891, 1892, 1894
 
Tigers:(36) '12, '15, '18, '21, '24, '26, '30, '34, '35, '36, '37, '39, '40, '41, '46, '51, '60, '61, '63, '66, '67, '68, '69, '72, '73, '77, '82, '84, '85, '87, '88, '94, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009
 
Tip-Tops:(1) '15
 
Twins/Senators:(24)  '09, '20, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '30, '32, '33, '45, '54, '63, '65, '66, '67, '69, '70, '87, '88, '91, '97, 2005, 2006
 
Whales:(1) '15
 
White Sox:(44) '06, '12, '13, '15, '16, '17, '18, '19, '20, '33, '34, '36, '37, '40, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '63, '64, '66, '67, '68, '69, '74, '77, '86, '91, '92, '93, '95, '97, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
 
Wolverines:(1) 1887
 
Yankees:(92) '09, '17, '20, '21, '22, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '36, '37, '38, '39, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '45, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '69, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
 
If anyone sees any mistakes here, please let me know.
 
 
 1076 teams used ((44 seasons x 24 teams) + (1 season x 20 teams)) - season 25 used the first 24 world series winners
11/26/2012 1:57 PM (edited)
owner - team

emperorp - 1930 Robins
cstrohmier - 1966 Angels
halo23 - 2012 Angels
newarkwilder - 1908 Indians

happyhours - 2002 Astros
trd3 - 1992 Yankees
sgsmith - 2012 Dodgers
wetwillytwo - 2008 Mariners
horus_6 - 1998 Padres

talismen25 - 1906 Pirates
famous_dad - 1909 Giants
odalisgagne - 1971 Tigers
terry00 - 1978 Pirates
soxfanj1995 - 1973 Dodgers
tjefferson - 1905 Cubs
bob_shabazz - 1973 Astros
ssaffle - 2012 Giants
tabasko - 1992 Phillies
darthdurron - 2012 Cardinals

koyunlu - 1994 Royals
forte4him - 1961 Reds
nikospade - 1915 Phillies
iudane - 2012 Marlins
11/26/2012 1:56 PM (edited)
Wait List:
 
 
 
Old-timers returning in future:
 
 
 
 
Leave your name if you want to be included. We usually have a couple of openings and we fill them on a first come, first served basis. Newbies are always welcome to try their hand. We've had a few guys win their first championship in this league.
 
* returning wannabe with 5+ seasons get moved to the front of the waitlist
11/13/2012 10:31 AM (edited)
Season - champ - team
 
1 - 1927 A's - odalisgagne
2 - 1909 A's (2)- gorbyruss
3 - 1900 Braves - gorbyruss [2]
4 - 1907 Cubs - buckyblues
5 - 2000 Astros - keiko
6 - 1892 Phillies - cpmitchno1
7 - 1895 Orioles - ssaffle
8 - 1942 Dodgers - gorbyruss [3]
9 - 1982 Brewers - jgreene
10 - 1976 Royals - mfumar
11 - 1982 Red Sox - cpmitchno1 [2]
12 - 1998 Indians - cpmitchno1 [3]
13 - 1946 Yankees - ronthegenius
14 - 1901 Pirates - dalailama12
15 - 1968 Cardinals - dn3524
16 - 1967 Astros (2) - gorbyruss [4]
17 - 2000 Devil Rays - calhoop
18 - 1916 White Sox - bgalle54
19 - 1999 Cardinals (2)- dn3524 [2]
20 - 1927 Cardinals (3)- bgalle54 [2]
21 - 1930 Tigers - odalisgagne [2]
22 - 1989 Cardinals (4) - dn3524 [3]
23 - 1983 A's (3) - combalt
24 - 1993 Mariners - wetwillytwo
25 - 2000 Astros - keiko [2] (winner of WS league)
26 - 1971 Pirates (2) - sgsmith
27 - 1973 A's (4) - ssaffle [2]
28 - 1930 Yankees (2) - MMTDad
29 - 2000 Red Sox (2) - odalisgagne [3]
30 - 2007 Red Sox (3) - brucel
31 - 1968 Cubs (2) - tgrun
32 - 1948 Yankees (3) - mfumar [2]
33 - 2002 Dodgers (2) - wetwillytwo [2]
34 - 1949 Yankees (4) - emperorp
35 - 1968 Giants - darthdurron
36 - 1991 Cubs (3) - mac195 
37 - 1997 Dodgers (3) - stroh23
38 - 1965 Cardinals (5) - mac195 [2]
39 - 1952 Dodgers (4) - emperorp [2]
40 - 1993 Brewers (2) - cstrohmier
41 - 1970 Astros (3) - darthdurron [2]
42 - 1944 Cardinals (6) - sgsmith [2]
43 - 1989 Phillies (2) - stroh23 [2]
44 - 1990 Red Sox (4) - bottomlee
45 - 1981 Orioles (2) - horus_6
46 - 2012 Yankees (5) - odalisgagne [4]
11/26/2012 2:01 PM (edited)
some odd minutia about the blacklist
 
longest stretch of teams taken
48 - Yankees 1920-1967
42 - Yankees 1971-2012
41 - Red Sox 1971-2011
29 - Orioles 1955-1983
23 - Dodgers 1947-1969
19 - Mariners 1988-2006
15 - Giants 1959-1973
15 - Cubs 1960-1974
14 - Indians 1946-1959
14 - Phillies 1973-1986
14 - Dodgers 1996-2009
13 - Cardinals 1959-1971
13 - Cardinals 1997-2009
13 - Astros 1979-1991
12 - Cardinals 1923-1934
 
 
longest spread between teams
36 years - A's 1933-1969
26 years - Dodgers 1900-1926
 
1100 of 2492~ Teams have been used (approx 44.`%)
 
102 of 108 World Series winners have been used
Season XLVII - 2012 Giants
 
314 of 380 Playoff teams have been used
Season XLVII - 1915 Phillies, 1961 Reds, 1998 Padres, 2012 Cardinals, 2012 Giants
 
96 of 97 One hundred Win teams have been used
Season XLVII - 
 
22 of 142 One hundred Loss teams have been used
Season XLVII - 
 
Highest Percentage of teams used of a single season
1967 - 90% (18/20)
1990 - 73% (19/26)
1966 - 70% (14/20)
1989 - 69% (18/26)
1991 - 69% (18/26)
1959 - 69% (11/16)
1985 - 65% (17/26)
1987 - 65% (17/26)
1968 - 65% (13/20)
1965 - 65% (13/20)
2005 - 63% (19/30)
1969 - 63% (15/24)
1933 - 63% (10/16)
1986 - 62% (16/26)
 
 
 
Lowest Percentage of teams used of a single season
1905 - 6% - (1 of 16)
 
Season that haven't been used
every season since 1887 has been used once
 
Highest Pct of Franchise Seasons Used
82.1% - New York Yankees (92/112)
58.3% - Seattle Mariners (21/36)
57.9% - St. Louis Cardinals (73/126)
56.9% - Houston Astros (29/51)
55.6% - Los Angeles Dodgers (70/126)
54.9% - New York Mets (28/51)
54.8% - San Francisco Giants (69/126)
53.6% - Boston Red Sox (60/112)
53.3% - Arizona Diamondbacks (8/15)
52.8% - Toronto Blue Jays (19/36)
 
 
 
only clubs to have a team twisted in every decade since 1900
Cleveland Indians and NY/SF Giants and Philadelphia Phillies and New York Yankees
 
1907 Cubs, 1949 Yankees, 1971 Pirates, 1973 A's and 2007 Red Sox - only teams to win real WS and then a Wannabe WS
11/26/2012 2:01 PM (edited)
In case you are wondering the final two teams that won 100 games that haven't been used:
1892 Braves

Winning World Series unused teams:
1903 Red Sox
1918 Red Sox
1945 Tigers
1960 Pirates
2002 Angels
2011 Cardinals

11/4/2012 1:19 AM
going to take the 1930 Brooklyn Robins, for now
11/4/2012 2:31 AM
1966 California Angels
11/4/2012 8:10 AM
2012 Angels I think
11/4/2012 9:25 AM
I'm back in.
11/4/2012 10:07 AM
In. 2001 Minnesota. For now of course
11/4/2012 10:13 AM
What If for #50 everyone took a 100 loss team?

Or.....took a prev champ in league? One time only reuse? (til #100 anyway!)
11/4/2012 10:30 AM
Posted by dn3524 on 11/4/2012 10:11:00 AM (view original):
Posted by emperorp on 11/4/2012 1:18:00 AM (view original):
In case you are wondering the final two teams that won 100 games that haven't been used:
1892 Braves
2005 Angels

Winning World Series unused teams:
1903 Red Sox
1918 Red Sox
1945 Tigers
1960 Pirates
2002 Angels
2011 Cardinals
2005 Angels won 95 games
I thought I fixed this last time, it was the 2008 Angels that won 100 games and they have been used. So, if my spreadsheet is correct, there remains only 1 100-win team. And now the 2012 Giants are another WS winner that has not been used.
11/4/2012 10:31 AM
Posted by dn3524 on 11/4/2012 10:13:00 AM (view original):
What If for #50 everyone took a 100 loss team?

Or.....took a prev champ in league? One time only reuse? (til #100 anyway!)
We used the 24 previous WS champs in season 25, I think we should change it up
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