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3/3/2013 8:56 PM

I’m showing the way I categorize players into my rating system.  The threshold for having a championship level team has generally been around 25 points.  The rankings are:

1)      Role Player

2)      Quality Backup

3)      Capable Starter

4)      Good

5)      Star

PG) Arthur Turner (Sr) Great

Sylvester Dickerson (Jr) Good

Samuel McSharry (Soph) Quality Backup

Edward Beavers (Fr) Role Player

Lonnie Burton (Fr) Role Player

PF) 
John Hatch (Jr) Capable Starter

Wilfred Beamer (Sr) Capable Starter

Joseph Kearns (Jr) Capable Starter

Clarence Conrad (Soph) Role Player

Michael Wiggins (Soph) Role Player

C) Jon Jones (Jr) Quality Backup

Jack Surratt (Fr) Role Player

That adds up to 27

3/3/2013 8:56 PM
Last year was a down year.  That's not the case this year.

There are 21 teams with the grade of 25 or higher in my ranking system.  Usually I determine a team that starts at 25+ to mean they have a chance at a championship. 
1-#1-CSU, Stanislaus-31
2-#10-Shippensburg U.-30
3(t)-#2-Barry-29
3(t)-#7-N. Kentucky-29
5(t)-#3-West Georgia-28
5(t)-#4-Mount Olive-28
5(t)-#5-N. Greenville-28
5(t)-#13-Tampa-28
9(t)-#8-OK Panhandle St.-27
9(t)-NR-TAMU, Kingsville-27
11(t)-#6-UA, Monticello-26
11(t)-#12-Missouri, St. Louis-26
11(t)-#16-Fayetteville St.-26
11(t)-NR-Drury-26
15(t)-#9-CSU, Los Angeles-25
15(t)-#11-S. Arkansas-25
15(t)-#15-N. Florida-25
15(t)-#18-Emporia St.-25
15(t)-#21-Bemidji St.-25
15(t)-NR-Bellarmine-25
15(t)-NR-Wilmington-25

Backboy I know you want to see your roster.  Here they are:
PG-Reasoner-Good
     Stewart-Capable Starter
     Bryant-Good
     Frantz-Role Player
SG-Blevins-Good
SF-Yates-Capable Starter
     Berndt-Quality Backup
     Howell-Role Player
PF-Richardson-Capable Starter
     Mingus-Role Player
C-Armor-Quality Backup
     Beresford-Quality Backup
3/4/2013 2:07 AM
:) you're good TW, hopefully my team can do some damage this season... We seem to have plateaued as a Sweet 16 but no further program. Expect to see big growth from Howell and Armor this season, along with Frantz (who will be redshirting so he can be a stud for 1-1.5 seasons).
3/17/2013 3:32 PM
There won't be a conference preview this year.  I've been really busy and don't have the time right now.
4/6/2013 5:43 PM
This should be an electric tournament.  D2 has a lot of really good teams this year and only one or two teams aren't very good that made the field.  Here's the data from the last couple years.  
Formula Pt Diff % Favorite Wins Avg. Pt Diff Sample Size
1 53.85 2.62 13
2 58.33 2.08 12
3 50       -2.25 12
4 69.23 6.38 13
5 70.59 7.29 17
6 87.5 11.63 8
7 80 8.2 5
8 100 10.22 9
9 85.71 11.43 7
10 66.67 8.83 6
11 100 17.67 6
12 0 -2 1
13 50 4.5 2
14 0 0 0
15 100 18.5 2
16 100 22 2
17 100 16 1
18 0 0 0
19 100 31 1
20 100 20 1
21 0 0 0
22 0 0 0
23 100 26 1
1st round:
Seed Teams Formula Pt Diff Actual Score
2v15 West Georgia/Barton 16-West Georgia  
2v15 N. Kentucky/Wingate 14-N. Kentucky  
1v16 CSU, Dominguez Hills/Arkansas Tech 11-CSU, Dominguez Hills  
7v10 Oklahoma Panhandle St./Ohio Valley 11-Oklahoma Panhandle St.  
3v14 UA, Monticello/Fairmont St. 11-UA, Monticello  
1v16 Shippensburg U./Holy Family 11-Shippensburg U.  
2v15 N. Florida/Rollins 11-N. Florida  
2v15 Mount Olive/Alaska Anchorage 9-Mount Olive  
3v14 N. Greenville/San Francisco St. 9-N. Greenville  
1v16 Barry/S. Arkansas 8-Barry  
8v9 Florida Tech/Fort Lewis 8-Fort Lewis  
3v14 CSU, Los Angeles/Longwood 7-CSU, Los Angeles  
4v13 Bellarmine/Shaw 6-Bellarmine  
4v13 Lynn/Nebraska, Omaha 6-Lynn  
6v11 Indiana U. (PA)/Chadron St. 6-Indiana U. (PA)  
4v13 Fayetteville St./USC Upstate 5-Fayetteville St.  
6v11 Missouri, St. Louis/S.W. Minnesota St. 5-Missouri, St. Louis  
5v12 CSU, Stanislaus/Humboldt St. 5-CSU, Stanislaus  
7v10 Miles/Incarnate Word 5-Incarnate Word  
6v11 Bemidji St./Tarleton St. 5-Bemidji St.  
1v16 Drury/Tiffin 5-Drury  
5v12 Cal. San Diego/Grand Valley St. 5-Cal. San Diego  
3v14 Tampa/Wilmington 4-Tampa  
4v13 N. Alabama/Kutztown U. 3-N. Alabama  
8v9 Catawba/St. Thomas Aquinas 2-St. Thomas Aquinas  
7v10 St. Edward's/Henderson St.  2-St. Edward's  
5v12 Mesa St./W. Alabama 1-Mesa St.  
5v12 St. Cloud St./Sonoma St. 1-Sonoma St.  
8v9 TAMU, Kingsville/Emporia St. Push  
6v11 Cal. St. Poly/Colorado St., Pueblo Push  
8v9 Mercy/Charleston Push  
7v10 Assumption/St. Mary's Push  

4/7/2013 12:39 PM
1st/2nd round:
Seed Teams Formula Pt Diff Actual Score
2v15 West Georgia/Barton 16-West Georgia 60-47 West Georgia (1-0)
2v15 N. Kentucky/Wingate 14-N. Kentucky 83-56 N. Kentucky (2-0)
1v16 CSU, Dominguez Hills/Arkansas Tech 11-CSU, Dominguez Hills 69-53 CSU, Dominguez Hills (3-0)
7v10 Oklahoma Panhandle St./Ohio Valley 11-Oklahoma Panhandle St. 83-75 Oklahoma Panhandle St. (4-0)
3v14 UA, Monticello/Fairmont St 11-UA, Monticello 85-71 UA, Monticello (5-0)
1v16 Shippensburg U./Holy Family 11-Shippensburg U. 94-60 Shippensburg U. (6-0)
2v15 N. Florida/Rollins 11-N. Florida 83-77 N. Florida (7-0)
2v15 Mount Olive/Alaska Anchorage 9-Mount Olive 80-60 Mount Olive (8-0)
3v14 N. Greenville/San Francisco St. 9-N. Greenville 97-72 N. Greenville (9-0)
1v16 Barry/S. Arkansas 8-Barry 100-57 Barry (10-0)
8v9 Florida Tech/Fort Lewis 8-Fort Lewis 89-82 Fort Lewis (11-0)
3v14 CSU, Los Angeles/Longwood 7-CSU, Los Angeles 78-73 CSU, Los Angeles (12-0)
4v13 Bellarmine/Shaw 6-Bellarmine 84-66 Bellarmine (13-0)
4v13 Lynn/Nebraska, Omaha 6-Lynn 63-52 Lynn (14-0)
6v11 Indiana U. (PA)/Chadron St. 6-Indiana U. (PA) 81-75 Chadron St. (14-1)
4v13 Fayetteville St./USC Upstate 5-Fayetteville St. 88-56 Fayetteville St. (15-1)
6v11 Missouri, St. Louis/S.W. Minnesota St. 5-Missouri, St. Louis 97-73 Missouri, St Louis (16-1)
5v12 CSU, Stanislaus/Humboldt St. 5-CSU, Stanislaus 84-65 CSU, Stanislaus (17-1)
7v10 Miles/Incarnate Word 5-Incarnate Word 72-69 (OT) Miles (17-2)
6v11 Bemidji St./Tarleton St. 5-Bemidji St. 87-82 Bemidji St. (18-2)
1v16 Drury/Tiffin 5-Drury 69-60 Drury (19-2)
5v12 Cal. San Diego/Grand Valley St. 5-Cal. San Diego 89-66 Cal. San Diego (20-2)
3v14 Tampa/Wilmington 4-Tampa 62-60 Tampa (21-2)
4v13 N. Alabama/Kutztown U. 3-N. Alabama 96-88 N. Alabama (22-2)
8v9 Catawba/St. Thomas Aquinas 2-St. Thomas Aquinas 91-79 St. Thomas Aquinas (23-2)
7v10 St. Edward's/Henderson St. 2-St. Edward's 80-60 Henderson St. (23-3)
5v12 Mesa St./W. Alabama 1-Mesa St. 70-61 Mesa St. (24-3)
5v12 St. Cloud St./Sonoma St. 1-Sonoma St. 76-67 Sonoma St. (25-3)
8v9 TAMU, Kingsville/Emporia St. Push 90-78 TAMU, Kingsville (25-3-1)
6v11 Cal. St. Poly/Colorado St., Pueblo Push 89-83 Cal. St Poly (25-3-2)
8v9  Mercy/Charleston Push 72-68 Mercy (25-3-3)
7v10 Assumption/St. Mary's Push 72-66 St. Mary's (25-3-4)
1v9 CSU, Dominguez Hills/St. Thomas Aquinas 14-CSU, Dominguez Hills  
10v2 St. Mary's/West Georgia 14-West Georgia  
1v8 Drury/Mercy 12-Drury  
11v3 Chadron St./N. Greenville 11-N. Greenville  
7v2 Miles/N. Kentucky 10-N. Kentucky  
6v3 Cal. St. Poly/UA, Monticello 7-UA, Monticello  
1v9 Shippensburg U./Fort Lewis 7-Shippensburg U.  
1v8 Barry/TAMU, Kingsville 5-Barry  
10v2 Henderson St./N. Florida 5-N. Florida  
5v4 St. Cloud St./Bellarmine 4-Bellarmine  
6v3 Missouri, St. Louis/Tampa 3-Tampa  
5v4 CSU, Stanislaus/N. Alabama 3-CSU, Stanislaus  
7v2 Oklahoma Panhandle St./Mount Olive 1-Mount Olive  
6v3 Bemidji St./CSU, Los Angeles 1-Bemidji St.  
5v4 Mesa St./Fayetteville St. Push  
5v4 Cal. San Diego/Lynn        Push  

4/8/2013 7:35 PM
2nd round/sweet 16
Seed Teams Formula Pt Diff Actual Score
1v9 CSU, Dominguez Hills/St. Thomas Aquinas 14-CSU, Dominguez Hills 89-78 St. Thomas Aquinas (25-4-4)
10v2 St. Mary's/West Georgia 14-West Georgia 73-63 West Georgia (26-4-4)
1v8 Drury/Mercy 12-Drury 81-68 Drury (27-4-4)
11v3 Chadron St./N. Greenville 11-N. Greenville 107-80 N. Greenville (28-4-4)
7v2 Miles/N. Kentucky 10-N. Kentucky 73-72 Miles (28-5-4)
6v3 Cal. St. Poly/UA, Monticello 7-UA, Monticello 86-83 Cal. St. Poly (28-6-4)
1v9 Shippensburg U./Fort Lewis 7-Shippensburg U. 65-54 Fort Lewis (28-7-4)
1v8 Barry/TAMU, Kingsville 5-Barry 82-68 Barry (29-7-4)
10v2 Henderson St./N. Florida 5-N. Florida 81-79 Henderson St. (29-8-4)
5v4 St. Cloud St./Bellarmine 4-Bellarmine 81-73 Bellarmine (30-8-4)
6v3 Missouri, St. Louis/Tampa 3-Tampa 98-90 Tampa (31-8-4)
5v4 CSU, Stanislaus/N. Alabama 3-CSU, Stanislaus 58-47 N. Alabama (31-9-4)
7v2 Oklahoma Panhandle St./Mount Olive 1-Mount Olive 85-80 Mount Olive (32-9-4)
6v3 Bemidji St./CSU, Los Angeles 1-Bemidji St. 76-67 Bemidji St. (33-9-4)
5v4 Mesa St./Fayetteville St. Push 74-58 Fayetteville St. (33-9-5)
5v4 Cal. San Diego/Lynn Push 88-85 Lynn (33-10-5)
1v4 Barry/N. Alabama 8-Barry  
3v2 N. Greenville/West Georgia 8-West Georgia  
6v10 Bemidji St./Henderson St. 7-Bemidji St.  
1v4 Drury/Lynn 6-Drury  
9v4 St. Thomas Aquinas/Fayetteville St. 4-Fayetteville St.  
9v4 Fort Lewis/Bellarmine 4-Bellarmine  
3v2 Tampa/Mount Olive 2-Mount Olive  
6v7 Cal St. Poly/Miles 1-Miles  

The first round was boring but this second round had some huge upsets.  The St. Thomas Aquinas win is the biggest upset i've seen since I started tracking this.
4/9/2013 5:51 PM
Sweet 16/elite 8
Seed Teams Formula Pt Diff Actual Score
1v4 Barry/N. Alabama 8-Barry 87-73 Barry (34-10-6)
3v2 N. Greenville.West Georgia 8-West Georgia 85-84 (OT) West Georgia (35-10-6)
6v10 Bemidji St./Henderson St. 7-Bemidji St. 75-68 Bemidji St. (36-10-6)
1v4 Drury/Lynn 6-Drury 66-58 Drury (37-10-6)
9v4 St. Thomas Aquinas/Fayetteville St. 4-Fayetteville St. 77-75 St. Thomas Aquinas (37-11-6)
9v4 Fort Lewis/Bellarmine 4-Bellarmine 72-66 Bellarmine (38-11-6)
3v2 Tampa/Mount Olive 2-Mount Olive 81-60 Mount Olive (39-11-6)
6v7 Cal. St. Poly/Miles 1-Miles 86-76 Cal St. Poly (39-12-6)
1v6 Barry/Cal St. Poly 12-Barry  
9v2 St. Thomas Aquinas/Mount Olive 11-Mount Olive  
1v2 Drury/West Georgia 8-Drury  
4v6            Bellarmine/Bemidji St.                                                           Push
4/10/2013 8:25 PM
Elite 8/Final 4
Seed Teams Formula Pt Diff Actual Score
1v6 Barry/Cal St. Poly 12-Barry 85-74 Barry (40-11-6)
9v2 St. Thomas Aquinas/Mount Olive 11-Mount Olive 72-61 Mount Olive (41-11-6)
1v2 Drury/West Georgia 8-West Georgia 87-80 West Georgia (42-11-6)
4v6 Bellarmine/Bemidji St. Push 73-63 Bellarmine (42-11-7)
2v4 West Georgia/Bellarmine 9-West Georgia  
2v1 Mount Olive/Barry 1-Barry  
Looks like I counted the 2nd round game between Cal. San Diego and Lynn as both wrong and as a push game, so, I corrected for that here.  Also, I typed Drury as an 8 pt favorite over W. Georgia when it should have been the other way around (West Georgia is the top team in the field) and I corrected for that.  I'm killing myself with clerical errors.  Shaping up to be an exciting final 4
Title Game Possibilities
Seed Teams Formula Pt Diff Actual Score
1v4 Barry/Bellarmine 5-Barry  
2v2 Mount Olive/West Georgia 5-West Georgia  
2v4 Mount Olive/Bellarmine 4-Mount Olive  
1v2 Barry/West Georgia 4-West Georgia  

4/14/2013 11:36 AM (edited)
Final 4 
Seed Teams Formula Pt Diff Actual Score
2v4 West Georgia/Bellarmine 9-West Georgia 80-66 West Georgia (43-11-7)
2v1 Mount Olive/Barry 1-Barry 80-70 Barry (44-11-7)
1v2 Barry/West Georgia 4-West Georgia 91-76 West Georgia (44-11-7)
A pretty good year for my predictions. I went 44-11-7 (80%) to the seedings 49-14 (77.78%).  Lifetime I am now 130-45-13 (74.29%) to the seedings 136-52 (72.34%).  Congrats to West Georgia on a great year.  
Here is the updated data:
Formula Pt Diff % Favorite Wins Avg Pt Diff Sample Size
1 63.16 3.47  19 
2 60  2.53  15 
53.33 -1.47  15 
72.22  6.22  18
73.08  9.54  26 
83.33  10.5  12 
66.67  4.33   9
100  11.36  14 
90  13.9  10 
10  57.14  7.43 
11  100  17.08  13 
12  66.67  7.3 
13  50  4.5 
14  66.67  8.7 
15  100  18.5 
16  100  19 
17  100  16 
18 
19  100  31 
20  100  20 
21 
22 
23  100  26 


4/14/2013 11:59 AM
Also, I don't have the free time I once had, so, I'd like to open this up for anything Crum D2 related.  I'll still be doing most of the posts I have done, but will miss some because i'm working 60 hrs a week.  If anyone wants to conduct a study/place data/track their own team/introduce themselves/smack talk i'd encourage them to do so here.  Hopefully, other WIS junkies would like to have a central thread to discuss Crum D2 or just general goofiness (we could really use a photoshop wiz on that side).  
P.S.  When I say I'm opening this thread to anyone that excludes WCAA investigators.  At Oklahoma Panhandle St. we now run a clean program and I swear that we no longer force our under-preforming players to engage in sweatshop labor to supplement coaching salaries.
4/22/2013 8:36 PM
I’m showing the way I categorize players into my rating system.  The threshold for having a championship level team has generally been around 25 points.

The rankings are:

1)      Role Player

2)      Quality Backup

3)      Capable Starter

4)      Good

5)      Star

PG) Sylvester Dickerson (Sr) Star

Samuel McSharry (Jr) Good

Edward Bevers (Soph) Role Player

Johnnie Blas (Fr) Role Player

Lonnie Burton (Fr) Role Player

Reggie Darling (Fr) Role Player

PF) John Hatch (Sr) Star

Joseph Kearns (Sr) Good

Clarence Conrad (Jr) Quality Backup

Michael Wiggins (Jr) Quality Backup

C) Jon Jones (Sr) Capable Starter

Jack Surratt (Soph) Role Player

That adds up to 30

4/22/2013 8:59 PM
There are 22 teams this year with a 25 or more rating.  Should be another great year with many good teams. 
1(t)-#1-Oklahoma Panhandle St.-30
1(t)-#2-West Georgia-30
3(t)-#3-Mount Olive-28
3(t)-#13-Barry-28
5(t)-#5-Fort Lewis-27
5(t)-#10-Lincoln-27
5(t)-#11-Emporia St.-27
5(t)-#15-Tampa-27
5(t)-#20-Shippensburg U.-27
5(t)-#21-Clarion U.-27
11(t)-#4-Henderson St.-26
11(t)-#7-CSU, Stanislaus-26
11(t)-#12-CSU, Dominguez Hills-26
11(t)-#14-Bemidji St.-26
11(t)-#18-Indiana U.-26
11(t)-NR-Drury-26
11(t)-NR-Sonoma St.-26
18(t)-#8-Lewis-25
18(t)-#9-Fayetteville St.-25
18(t)-NR-St. Edward's-25
18(t)-NR-Incarnate Word-25
18(t)-NR-Cal. Poly Pomona-25

Backboy's ratings
PG) Michael Bryant (Sr) Good
George Frantz (Jr) Quality Backup
Charles Luebke (Jr) Capable Starter
Alfred Oakes (Fr) Role Player
SG) Lewis Swan (Fr) Role Player
SF) Alan Berndt (Sr) Capable Starter
Rodney Howell (Soph) Capable Starter
PF) John  Mingus (Soph) Quality Backup
Harry Clement (Fr) Role Player
Carl Mosier (Fr) Role Player
C) Lorenzo Armor (Jr) Capable Starter
William Beresford (Jr) Capable Starter

That adds up to 27
4/23/2013 12:49 AM
Appreciate it, TW. This year will be a year of growth in a lot of the players, especially Mosier, who has the potential to crack 800. He'll grow a ton this season and next season.
5/17/2013 11:03 PM
I really enjoy reading this thread. I'll have more time to add things to it when the summer hits. 
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