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4/17/2011 8:30 AM
All valid points.. I would agree to a 2 season home and home series..
4/17/2011 8:36 AM
Also, so Minnesota and Wake don't have to potentially play for 3 straight seasons (in the event we adopt a home and home format) we could switch those 8 and 9 games (assuming they haven't been scheduled yet... I havent checked), so the matchups were Minnesota vs. Virginia and Indiana vs. Wake Forest. Those matchups were determined by only a very slim tie-breaker to begin with.
4/17/2011 10:02 AM
"The only "tricky" part is determining which 6 teams get the home games in the 1st season of the 2-season home-and-home. Ideas? "

Prof, I suggested simply picking a conference, and giving one division home games, and the other away games.
4/18/2011 3:55 PM
Not a big fan of having all home or all away by conference.  Takes some of the fun out of "winning" it cause the home teams would be expected to have the advantage.  Much prefer 6:6 and dont care which year I am at home.
5/5/2011 1:09 AM
either way,its a good thing to look forward to. i hope it continues.
5/12/2011 3:47 PM
Count me in
6/18/2011 10:43 AM

If people are still interested in continuing the ACC/Big Ten challenge, new matchups are given below. I think we have finally worked the kinks out of this system, and have something good to build on, so thanks for your patience!

 This is a home-and-home series over two seasons. For the next two seasons you’ll schedule the same opponent, just switching the home team.

To determine the match-ups, teams from each conference were ranked 1 through 12 based on total regular season conference wins over the past 2 seasons. Any ties were broken by using average RPI over the past 2 seasons. Pairings were then set to be #1 ACC vs. #1 Big Ten, #2 ACC vs. #2 Big Ten, etc.

The team with the highest number of conference wins over the past two seasons was considered the overall #1 seed, and the conference of that team (Illinois/Big Ten) got home games allocated to its odd-seeded teams for this season, and the other conference (ACC) got home games allocated to its even-seeded teams. Of course, that flips next season.

One guiding principle of the challenge is to avoid repeat matchups in too-short a time period. We have established that no two teams can have multiple home-and-homes within a six-season window. To adhere to this, team seedings may need to be shifted from time to time. The degree of seed shifting will be minimized as much as possible when determining which teams to shift.  

For this challenge,  #3ACC Duke and #4ACC Florida St. were seed-shifted to avoid a repeat of the home-and-home series between Duke and Michigan St. that was played over the past 2 seasons. It was decided to switch Duke and FSU, because it minimized the degree of seed-shifting… those two teams were already tied in the number of ACC conference wins, and Duke was #3 ACC by virtue of the RPI tie-breaker with FSU. All other matchups played out strictly by the numbers, with no repeat matchups from last time.

 Without further ado, for those who are interested in continuing the challenge, here are match-ups to be scheduled for next season:

Boston College @ Illinois

Iowa @ Miami-FL

Florida St. @ Michigan St.

Indiana @ Duke

Georgia Tech @ Minnesota

Northwestern @ North Carolina

NC State @ Wisconsin

Michigan @ Wake Forest

Virginia @ Penn St.

Purdue @ Clemson

Maryland @ Notre Dame

Ohio St. @ Virginia Tech

The HOME TEAM is the RESPONSIBLE PARTY for extending the schedule invite. Games should be scheduled for GAME 6 if possible, but if that's already taken, any date will work.

coach_ms and I are sort of serving as co-commissioners for this challenge. For my own part, I will continue to be active in helping arrange matchups, etc. for as long as we can maintain greater than 50% participation. Both of us have signed off on the method of determining matchups, and on this season's match-ups.

Thanks,
Kevin

8/15/2011 6:08 PM
The challenge pairings for Season 41 are listed below. Please schedule for Game 6 if possible. Home team is responsible for extending the challenge invite. Season 42 will have the same pairings but with the Season 41 road teams being at home.

Michigan St. @ Georgia Tech

Miami-FL @ Illinois

Iowa @ North Carolina

Florida St. @ Northwestern

Minnesota @ Boston College

NC State @ Michigan

Indiana @ Maryland

Duke @ Ohio St.

Wisconsin @ Wake Forest

Clemson @ Penn St.

Purdue @ Virginia

Virginia Tech @ Notre Dame
 
How the Pairings Were Determined
Teams within each conference were seeded 1 through 12, based on regular season conference wins over the past two seasons.
 
Any ties were broken by better average RPI over the last two seasons.
 
Big 10 #1 plays ACC #1, and so on, down to #12 vs. #12.
 
Seeds are switched if necessary to prevent any challenge rematches from the past 6 seasons (i.e. you are guaranteed to play 3 different teams in any 6-season window). The teams that are seed-switched to accomplish this are those of the affected teams that are closest to a different seed line (using the seeding criteria).
 
The overall No. 1 seed is the team from either conference with the most conference wins over the past two seasons (RPI tie-breaker used if needed). This team's conference will have its odd-seeded teams play at home and even-seeded teams play on the road in Season 1 of the two-season cycle. Keep the same pairings, but with home teams switched in Season 2.
 
For this season, ACC#3 Florida St. and ACC#4 UNC were switched to avoid a UNC/Northwestern rematch, and ACC#7 Duke and ACC#8 Maryland were switched to avoid an Indiana/Duke rematch.
8/16/2011 1:46 AM
thanks prof!
9/19/2011 3:14 PM
Bump. Season 42 pairings are the same as above, but switching the home/away teams.
10/21/2011 12:09 PM
Season 43 pairings are as follows: 

Miami-FL @ Michigan St.

Minnesota @ Florida St.

Georgia Tech @ Illinois

Iowa @ Boston College

NC State @ Northwestern

Ohio St. @ North Carolina

Clemson @ Indiana

Michigan @ Virginia

Virginia Tech @ Purdue

Wisconsin @ Maryland

Duke @ Notre Dame

Penn St. @ Wake Forest

Season 44 pairings will be the same as these, but alternating home/road teams. Four pairs of teams had to be switched from their true seed-line this time around, to avoid rematches: Miami/FSU, Purdue/Ohio St./Indiana/Michigan, and Maryland/Duke.

Good luck, and let me know if there are any questions.
12/25/2011 11:30 PM
Season 45 pairings as are follows. Let me know if any questions. Some shuffling of the top three seeds were needed to avoid recent re-matches, otherwise, everything else was clean: 

Duke @ Illinois

Michigan St. @ Florida St.

Miami-FL @ Indiana

Iowa @ NC State

North Carolina @ Michigan

Minnesota @ Georgia Tech

Boston College @ Ohio St.

Wisconsin @ Virginia

Maryland @ Northwestern

Purdue @ Clemson

Wake Forest @ Notre Dame

Penn St. @ Virginia Tech


2/20/2012 8:40 PM
Season 47 pairings as are follows. The following teams had their seeds switched to avoid recent rematches: Purdue/Wisconsin (5/6) and Iowa/Indiana (7/8) in the Big 10; and BC/FSU (3/4), Maryland/Clemson (8/9), and a 3-team shuffle in the 10-12 slots between Va Tech/Wake Forest/UNC in the ACC. Let me know if any questions: 

Georgia Tech @ Michigan St.

Ohio St. @ NC State

Florida St. @ Illinois

Minnesota @ Boston College

Virginia @ Purdue

Wisconsin @ Miami-FL

Duke @ Indiana

Iowa @ Maryland

Clemson @ Northwestern

Notre Dame @ Virginia Tech

Wake Forest @ Michigan

Penn St. @ North Carolina
5/1/2012 4:07 PM
Season 49 pairings as are follows. The following teams had their seeds switched to avoid recent rematches: Ohio St./Michigan St.(1/2),  Wisconsin/Northwestern(7/8), and Purdue/Notre Dame (10/11) in the Big 10; and Georgia Tech/Florida St. (5/6) in the ACC. Let me know if any questions: 

Michigan St. @ Boston College

Duke @ Ohio St.

Illinois @ NC State

Virginia @ Iowa

Indiana @ Georgia Tech

Florida St. @ Minnesota

Northwestern @ Miami-FL

North Carolina @ Wisconsin

Michigan @ Clemson

Maryland @ Notre Dame

Purdue @ Virginia Tech

Wake Forest @ Penn St.

7/5/2012 12:17 PM
Season 51 pairings as are follows. The following teams had their seeds switched to avoid recent rematches: Georgia Tech/Boston College/Duke (1/2/3),  Purdue/Northwestern (6/7) and Michigan/Penn St./Notre Dame (10/11/12). Also, I recognize that the NC State/Wisconsin game is a Sim vs. Sim matchup and can't be scheduled for next season, but changing it would have affected several other matchups, so I left it as is. Let me know if any questions: 

Duke @ Michigan State

Ohio State @ Georgia Tech

Boston College @ Iowa

Illinois @ Virginia

Clemson @ Indiana

Northwestern @ Florida State

Miami-FL @ Purdue

Minnesota @ North Carolina

NC State @ Wisconsin

Michigan @ Maryland

Wake Forest @ Notre Dame

Penn State @ Virginia Tech



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